I know I'm a bad poet, but I'm a good man. All I ask is that... is that you try to see me—

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


brenda m - Aug 27, 2006 6:40:12 am PDT #4700 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

It wasn't even about "That Day" -- it was about all the political stupidness that has followed.

Exactly. Apparently even that is off limits to critical examination.

Me, I'm still pissed off that people continue to equate the two events. Both tragic, sure, but one nearly destroyed an entire region. I mean, really.

And not only that, was entirely within our power to prevent, or at least alleviate. For all the Federal gov very clearly did wrong in the years leading up to 9/11, their culpability in Katrina is far greater, and clearer.

The original Nagin interview in question is on 60 Minutes tonight, FYI.


Jesse - Aug 27, 2006 6:43:56 am PDT #4701 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And not only that, was entirely within our power to prevent, or at least alleviate.

Yeah, I heard someone on some One Year Later thing recently talking about how Katrina was not actually a natural disaster, but a failure of the Army Corps of Engineers or whoever. Ugh.

Fuck. I've got to get a move on so I can shower and go to the glasses store before I meet a friend at the movies, but I just don't want to.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 27, 2006 6:57:07 am PDT #4702 of 10001
What is even happening?

Oy, brenda.

I am aggravated this morning, thanks to my neighbor who woke me up -- specifically, on purpose -- at 2:30 in the morning. BAH.

When is the funeral?

Fall resolution: watch Scrubs.

Jesse--about Scrubs. Scott and I caught episodes of season 5, here and there, during the regular TV season and fell pretty hard for it. We bought the DVDs for the first three seasons (all that had been released at the time) and fell even harder. It's quirky. The humor is frequently sexual (which—when so frequently used on other comedies, tends to bore me, but Scrubs does it right). It's snarky, and yet it's just full of heart.

NBC didn't air reruns for most of this summer (until this past week). And when we caught the two (season 5 re-runs) they just aired, we liked them, but didn't love them the way we love the first 3 seasons.

Maybe it was just the episodes we caught (one was sort of a clever homage to * The Wizard of Oz) *, or maybe it was our mood, but I felt like they were trying too hard to accomplish the right blend of quirk/snark/heart stuff they used to do, naturally. That said, I still adore it. If/since Comedy Central is going to re-run it, definitely give it a shot. So so cute. Just remember, Dr. Cox is mine.

Which reminds me that I have the DVDs for The Office S1, which I still haven't watched. That's another fascinating series that I didn't bother to try, even though it ran directly after My Name is Earl ... I guess the directorial styles of the two shows are so different that I didn't want to try warpping my brain from one to the other unprepared.

I think they're a weird mix too Theo, even though I like both shows (and actually adore The Office). My guess is that NBC has so little to offer right now, that the programmers just went, "Hey, we actually have two decent sitcoms. Put 'em on Thursdays. Together. Remember when we were Must See TV? Yeah. That was cool."

I was saying to Scott that I'd love to see the line-up go: Earl; Scrubs; The Office; [some show], between 8 and 10 on Thursday nights. I think Scrubs would make the transition from Earl to The Office less jarring. I have no idea what (if anything) they could schedule fourth, though.

Season 2 of The Office has it all over season 1, for what it's worth. It's where the show really finds its own way (apart from the original UK series, I mean) and own voice.

My Name is Earl is a really cute show. I started watching it because Cashmere was so enthusiastic about it.
Best. Soundtrack. On. Television. Bar. None.
Currently? Because if we can count old series, I'm going to mention Freaks and Geeks. It's funny how music matters so much in television. Even the theme songs to Earl, The Office, and Scrubs get me in mood. The Office's theme always makes me feel like I'm riding the rails to Scranton, PA.


sumi - Aug 27, 2006 7:21:42 am PDT #4703 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Well, aren't the policies that prevent resilting of the flood plain partially responsible for loss of the barrier islands which are the natural defense against things like hurricane and tsunami style waves?


Theodosia - Aug 27, 2006 7:33:35 am PDT #4704 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Also in the running for Best TV Soundtrack Ever: WKRP. ::sigh::


brenda m - Aug 27, 2006 7:45:34 am PDT #4705 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

....And now that I've blasphemed against 9/11, helicopters have been circling around my neighborhood for the past half hour. ...here come the Men in Black....


aurelia - Aug 27, 2006 8:04:17 am PDT #4706 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

...here come the Men in Black....

Maybe you'll luck out and they'll make you forget all of W's time in office.


Topic!Cindy - Aug 27, 2006 8:05:20 am PDT #4707 of 10001
What is even happening?

Last week, an unnamed family was at a beach, in Maine. The day before, the adult family members had engaged in a political discussion during which the adult female may or may not have declared the Vice President, "The First Evil."

The male revived this discussion, while on the beach, saying, "I don't think he's the First Evil."

The female may or may not have replied, "Well, then he's the second. He's definitely one of the first ten evils, and I will brook no further argument on that, because it's a Known Fact."

A black helicopter came, seemingly, out of nowhere, and spent the next several minutes circling overhead.

I've heard.


aurelia - Aug 27, 2006 8:35:01 am PDT #4708 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Did they take brenda away?

Heh. I can hear (distant) helicopters now. It's gotta be pretty quiet out if they're still in brenda's neighborhood and I can hear them.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 27, 2006 8:46:31 am PDT #4709 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

If the government could afford to send black ops helicopters to monitor every time someone badmouthed Fearless Leader, the trees outside my apartment wouldn't have any foilage left.