This is my boat. They're part of my crew. No one's getting left. Best you get used to that.

Mal ,'Ariel'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Jesse - Aug 23, 2006 11:54:56 am PDT #4226 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

NYTimes op-ed article in defense of Pluto: [link]

Yeah, I'm done with work for the day.


Vortex - Aug 23, 2006 11:55:21 am PDT #4227 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Oh, this is not going to go well

New 'Survivor' Divides Groups By Race


P.M. Marc - Aug 23, 2006 11:59:27 am PDT #4228 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

There was a period when Salon was worth paying for, right around the time we Went To War and all that.

Now, it's not usually even worth me clicking through an ad.


brenda m - Aug 23, 2006 12:02:40 pm PDT #4229 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I know, Vortex, can you believe? I thought it was a joke at first.


Glamcookie - Aug 23, 2006 12:04:14 pm PDT #4230 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Bento box adorableness!!!! [link]


Jesse - Aug 23, 2006 12:10:15 pm PDT #4231 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, that Survivor thing is bananas. They had to recruit like 80% of the contestants, so there are a ton of actors etc.


sarameg - Aug 23, 2006 12:11:32 pm PDT #4232 of 10001

Sometimes google is just not the right idea. t /random


erikaj - Aug 23, 2006 12:12:01 pm PDT #4233 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

I used to Love To Hate their TV critic but then she wrote her column in Deadwood speak and says she is a Wire fan, so had to take her Off Notice. Still miss Joyce Millman, though.


JZ - Aug 23, 2006 12:30:44 pm PDT #4234 of 10001
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

My main gripe with Salon in its current incarnation is still the shitty-ass decision to turn the letters to the editor section into a barely-moderated posting board. It's unpleasant, depressing, venomous, and also totally incomprehensible since they still have TT so it's not like readers have no other options for instant gratification and feedback.

Also, I'm feeling all sour over how little they print anymore of Joe Conason or Ann Lamott, easily my two favorite writers there. And on the rare occasions that either one does post an essay it's immediately answered by eleventy jillion rabid letters from representatives of the far ends of the political spectrum crucifying them for their various sins of moderation and reasonableness and being either too hardheadedly practical or too moonbattily idealistic, with subsets of attack dogs lunging at Conason's throat for being a Clinton ass-kisser and Lamott's for either pretending to be both Christian and intelligent or, in her more personal essays, daring to suggest that parenting is not 24/7/365 sunshine and roses and snugglepuppies.

It makes me think fondly and lovingly of the Onion's editorial policy (last item in the FAQ).

Oh, that Gawker response to the Forbes idiocy is a thing of beauty!


erikaj - Aug 23, 2006 12:44:36 pm PDT #4235 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

Yeah, I don't write letters to the ed for the same reason I skip talk radio...don't want to be One of Those. ETA: That looks funny next to my tag...bwah!