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Jayne ,'Safe'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


JenP - Aug 21, 2006 4:09:34 pm PDT #3833 of 10001

That sucks, ita. May they get there soon.


amych - Aug 21, 2006 4:10:49 pm PDT #3834 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Hebrew National hot dogs tells me that the back half of the cow is nonkosher. If they are accurate, what's the explanation?

As I understand it, it's basically a practicality thing: To be considered kosher, all the veins, sinews, certain large nerves, and I think some other stuff have to be removed from the meat, all under the proper sort of supervision. There's a lot more of that stuff to be stripped out from the hindquarters, so big producers like HN sell off those parts -- but it's not like shellfish or pork, where it can't be kosher no matter how carefully and expensively you handle it.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2006 4:11:16 pm PDT #3835 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

At least I'd already texted in late since I got held over at work. But this bites. Planning/teaching level five is a huge opportunity.

Okay. Been twenty minutes. They said within thirty...


-t - Aug 21, 2006 4:11:37 pm PDT #3836 of 10001
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

sarameg, this is the clearst explanation I could find:

But of mammals that are kosher, not all of their parts necessarily are. The sciatic nerve, for example, and its related arteries, are not permissible to eat. But because the process of removing them from the animal's hind quarter is so labor-intensive and time-consuming, it's not worth the trouble and cost to go through this procedure. So, at least in America, the hind quarters are considered unkosher -- which means cuts such as sirloin, T-bone, and filet mignon are not eaten.

That's a drag, ita. I'm sorry.


beth b - Aug 21, 2006 4:11:48 pm PDT #3837 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

may ita be rescued soon.


JenP - Aug 21, 2006 4:15:32 pm PDT #3838 of 10001

Not that it helps you at the moment, but is the lesson plan something you can reuse at least?


sarameg - Aug 21, 2006 4:19:42 pm PDT #3839 of 10001

Thanks! That makes more sense than my poop parts explanation. I'm afraid all my kosher/not-kosher explanations come from the childhood friend's grandmother, who limited it to "Do NOT put that on the table. Here, eat this. Change the tablecloth now. The dishes do not go THERE! muttermutter ." She was an awesome cook, and really loved having us over for elaborate meals while the family was on sabbatical, but patience for the borderline quakers' lack of knowlege was not her strong point.


amych - Aug 21, 2006 4:21:24 pm PDT #3840 of 10001
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

Sarameg, that sounds just like my Great-Aunt M, and she didn't even keep kosher! She was just really cranky around children.


§ ita § - Aug 21, 2006 4:23:26 pm PDT #3841 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

He'll ask what my lesson plan was. His call if we use it next week.

AAA is here. I should be off soon. Bless Volks and their full spares.

Krav, here I come!


JenP - Aug 21, 2006 4:26:20 pm PDT #3842 of 10001

Hope you get to use it next week then. Happy... or, rather, kick-ass kravving to you.