Well, lady, I must say-- You're my kinda stupid.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2006 4:46:50 pm PDT #3646 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hmm. Watching Fight Science (thanks to Arliss for the heads up!). They're measuring the force of various arts. First up is the punch. Not surprisingly, the boxer has one. But I bet every TKD school is saying they could have fielded someone stronger. Just like any of the other arts.

Thing is, they've shown a number of competition one-punch knockouts. They're all hooks. The punches they're measuring are straight punches--delivered to the front of the face. Yet the RL knockouts, those come around through the jaw from the side.

It's fascinating stuff, but not exactly scientific method.

They're questioning the reality of a one punch knockout--I was surprised that was even a question. I have no idea how they'd measure multiple-punch knockouts anyway.


Cass - Aug 20, 2006 4:57:20 pm PDT #3647 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I'm torn between being fascinated and whimpering in an owowowowowwww way remembering back when my jaw was broken. FTR, one hit and it used a tetherball pole as a baseball bat. And was a TKO. My sister thought I was dead. [eta: I wasn't.] Good times.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2006 5:01:17 pm PDT #3648 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Ack! I want to whimper myself.

So far the boxer is a boxer. Doing what I expected, I mean-following boxing rules. The TKD guy is using elbows, so he's not using sport rules of any federation I know.

With the kicks, the Muay Thai guy won the force competition with a knee--delivering as much force as a 35mph car crash.

Now they're measuring flurries. Fuckers are fast, but I'd take a few of those kicks. They're not hard. Get away from me with those hand strikes, though.

Now they're testing to see if any of them can strike faster than a snake.


Cass - Aug 20, 2006 5:12:00 pm PDT #3649 of 10001
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

It does make me look at why I have shied away from training. After all, I've lost badly in the past when hit. Why invite it? Not that it's a rational thing. Just explains why, as much as I would like to learn it, I can't reconcile the being hit on purpose. I mean, the not on purpose stuff didn't end so well.

Now they're testing to see if any of them can strike faster than a snake.
Oooh! Two fears in one.

I'm going to back to the slashy vids. Boy on boy, I can handle.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2006 5:17:39 pm PDT #3650 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The kung fu guy was clocked at 4x the speed of a striking...some sort of snake. Maybe he should have been in the movie on the plane.


bon bon - Aug 20, 2006 5:27:02 pm PDT #3651 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

They're questioning the reality of a one punch knockout--I was surprised that was even a question.

Huh. This should prove otherwise: [link]


tommyrot - Aug 20, 2006 5:32:03 pm PDT #3652 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

delivering as much force as a 35mph car crash.

What does this mean? Do they mean acceleration? As in the part of the body that was hit was subject to the same acceleration (i.e g-force) as a passenger in the typical 35mph car crash? The amount of g-force that a passenger is going to experience in a car crash depends not only on the velocity, but on how rapidly the car decelerates, how well the car absorbs the impact by crumpling, whether there's an airbag, etc. I'm sure they can come up with an average figure, but the expression "as much force as a 35mph car crash" seems imprecise.


§ ita § - Aug 20, 2006 5:44:00 pm PDT #3653 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

They were using a crash test dummy, which was why it was cute to say 35mph. There were more numbers, but I'm not watching right now.

Bon-totally. A one punch knockout (and I'd count knockouts later in the fight when the guy going out was in good condition before it landed) is of the cool-as-shit designation, not legendary and undiscovered in the wilds of recorded boxing/etc.

Hmm. I just realised I'm not sure if I'm waiting for a ride or I'm supposed to be heading over myself. I don't want to head over myself. I'm that lazy. I'm lazy enough that calling the "ride" and sounding like an idiot is too much work. The idiot part helps with that.

I should lie down then.


tommyrot - Aug 20, 2006 5:56:39 pm PDT #3654 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Kellogs Squid Chunks From the Worth1000 Wacky Snaks contest [link]


Laura - Aug 20, 2006 5:57:46 pm PDT #3655 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

The TKD guy is using elbows, so he's not using sport rules of any federation I know.

Sounds like basketball rules. Or not.