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Spike ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


tommyrot - Aug 13, 2006 9:16:06 pm PDT #2420 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Yeah, SA and I were at Quimby's when I found that book. I mentioned Gus and SA convinced me to buy it for him.


Gus - Aug 13, 2006 9:19:31 pm PDT #2421 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

The History of Spices is the History of Trade

True, that. If you can make the leap between spice and entertainment, you can bring us right up to the present day.


DavidS - Aug 13, 2006 9:22:33 pm PDT #2422 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

If you can make the leap between spice and entertainment, you can bring us right up to the present day.

Cue, Guy Debord's Society of Spectacle.

In the essential movement of the spectacle, which consists of taking up all that existed in human activity in a fluid state so as to possess it in a congealed state as things which have become the exclusive value by their formulation in negative of lived value, we recognize our old enemy, the commodity, who knows so well how to seem at first glance something trivial and obvious, while on the contrary it is so complex and so full of metaphysical subtleties.

This is the principle of commodity fetishism, the domination of society by "intangible as well as tangible things," which reaches its absolute fulfillment in the spectacle, where the tangible world is replaced by a selection of images which exist above it, and which simultaneously impose themselves as the tangible par excellence.

The world at once present and absent which the spectacle makes visible is the world of the commodity dominating all that is lived. The world of the commodity is thus shown for what it is, because its movement is identical to the estrangement of men among themselves and in relation to their global product.


Gus - Aug 13, 2006 9:23:10 pm PDT #2423 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

SA has been two-timing me with tommyrot. For years.

I feel like such a dunce.


DavidS - Aug 13, 2006 9:23:56 pm PDT #2424 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I feel like such a dunce.

Well, she's going to Ireland for a while. Maybe she can two-time you with your relatives now.


Gus - Aug 13, 2006 9:26:48 pm PDT #2425 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

Flee! There is a situationist among us!


DavidS - Aug 13, 2006 9:28:51 pm PDT #2426 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Flee! There is a situationist among us!

Oh, come on. It's the only decent theoretical counter argument against capitalism since the Berlin Wall fell.

Besides, it makes sense. It's why Bill Hicks said marketing people were Satan.


tommyrot - Aug 13, 2006 9:34:00 pm PDT #2427 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

SA has been two-timing me with tommyrot. For years.

It's the car. Chicks dig the car. (She wanted a ride in my Lincoln convertible.)


Gus - Aug 13, 2006 9:43:49 pm PDT #2428 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

See, you can not invoke a comedian to support your point. It lacks that credibility thing.

That aside, Debord has some really valid points.

tommyrot: Dang. If I had only known that sooner.


Polter-Cow - Aug 13, 2006 10:32:21 pm PDT #2429 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Saw a dislocated shoulder today. OOOOMOTHERFUCKINGOOOOWWWW. Poor guy.

Oh yes. It hurts like a motherfucker. I know. Twice.