You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 03, 2006 4:30:12 am PDT #230 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why were they so evil in my dream??

Robots, aliens or monkeys. Either that, or their loved ones had been kidnapped and they had to act evil to keep them safe.


Frankenbuddha - Aug 03, 2006 4:42:07 am PDT #231 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Oh, and to all you "Heroes" out there - FILLIAM H. MUFFMANN !!!! Just in time for the new thread.


Jesse - Aug 03, 2006 4:48:28 am PDT #232 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Robots, aliens or monkeys. Either that, or their loved ones had been kidnapped and they had to act evil to keep them safe.

Thank you for providing so many reasonable options. I feel much better now.


Theodosia - Aug 03, 2006 4:52:33 am PDT #233 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

There's a documentary that occasionally shows up on Animal Planet and other similar channels called Cheeky Monkeys which is about urban South African monkeys and what a hideous bother they really are. Much worse than raccoons, who after all don't have opposable thumbs AND hardly ever show up in troops of 30-40.


sumi - Aug 03, 2006 5:05:12 am PDT #234 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

PR Fans:

Tim's podcast is a MUST this week.

And there is more on Andy's Blog and Rucker's blog and, finally, who knew that Nick Verreos was also writing up PR?


Jessica - Aug 03, 2006 5:06:52 am PDT #235 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Cheeky Monkeys

Oh, that's a BBC prog -- we use it all the time. (I first came across it when a client needed footage of monkeys drinking out of cups for a beer commercial.) t /Jess' job likes monkeys


Jesse - Aug 03, 2006 5:17:49 am PDT #236 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Andy's blog is my new favorite thing for sure. His recent response to the lady who wrote in with random quote marks "complaining" about the gay "content" on "Bravo" was "hilarious."


Lee - Aug 03, 2006 5:35:10 am PDT #237 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I'm watching PR right now, AIFG.

ita, did you watch last night's Hustle yet?


Rick - Aug 03, 2006 5:38:40 am PDT #238 of 10001

Skipping ahead a few posts to say, after all that Old Testament stuff--have any of you been reading "Blogging the Bible" on slate.com? It's fascinating stuff...

Instead of working this morning I followed meara's suggestion and read this series at Slate. It is an interesting, and often funny, attempt to read the Bible as text, stripped of Hellenistic retcons other nonscriptural aplogetics.

So far it supports the view of God as a psychopathic warlord, but of course the story isn't over yet. Perhaps he will redeem himself in the end.

I hope that wasn't a spoiler.


Zenkitty - Aug 03, 2006 5:56:08 am PDT #239 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

As amusing and even informative as it is to read the Bible simply as text, as a story, that doesn't provide an accurate understanding of it. It can't be understood outside of its cultural parameters. Which is true of any literary work, even, I argue, a divinely inspired one.

The story of Abraham and Issac made more sense to me when I realized that child sacrifice was common in the pagan religions the Hebrews were used to, and for a god to say, "No, you don't actually have to do that," was incredible. A god who didn't deman your children's lives - that had to be a big draw. So after realizing that, I saw that story as showing God to be merciful and loving, rather than capricious and abusive. And I did understand what someone else pointed out before, that it wasn't enough to tell Abraham that he didn't have to do that anymore. You ahve to demonstrate things to people, in very solid form, before they really believe them. That's true of humans everywhere and everywhen. If I were a god and my people thought they had to kill their babies for me, I'd demonstrate otherwise in much the same manner.

That said, I still fume about Jephthah's poor daughter. I don't remember if that was before or after Abraham, but it doesn't really matter.