Anya: We should drop a piano on her. It always works for that creepy cartoon rabbit when he's running from that nice man with the speech impediment. Giles: Yes, or perhaps we could paint a convincing fake tunnel on the side of a mountain.

'Touched'


Natter 46: The FIGHTIN' 46  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 8:47:37 am PDT #2105 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

In a world with the beauty of ligers and tigons, what's wrong with a bit of Ralph/Sam?


Cashmere - Aug 11, 2006 8:49:20 am PDT #2106 of 10001
Now tagless for your comfort.

I think a lot of the caveman/astronaut assumptions don't give enough credit to the caveman. Sure, the astronaut could either be a MacGyver-like engineer or an ex-military killing machine but the caveman has a lot more going for him than just brute strength and a killer instinct.

These people had to live by their wits. Even though they might not be smart enough to have fully functioning speech, they had to be canny, clever creatures just to survive. Their skills would extend beyond just hunting and include problem solving, often in high stress situations.


JohnSweden - Aug 11, 2006 8:51:45 am PDT #2107 of 10001
I can't even.

If we're not counting space tourists (and I'm not), astronauts are selected pretty hard to be our best and brightest. And to me, key in the question is the plural, so our best and brightest get to scheme in groups which is what we clever monkeys do best, with the astronauts getting paleolithic-to-now refinements on the basic model.

Unless we're in squash court territory, with the cavemen getting designer weapons fashioned from freshly vanquished cheetah, and the astronauts getting say, pocket protectors, them cavemen is soon to be rotting meat.

I wonder if the re-rise to prominence of this debate is a symptom of the fundie-right American anti-intellectual pogrom or if folks just miss ST:TOS Shatner.


msbelle - Aug 11, 2006 8:52:09 am PDT #2108 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

ita is in her scary place.

would someone email my boss and say I need to have the rest of the day off for a happy day? Thanks


Frankenbuddha - Aug 11, 2006 8:53:35 am PDT #2109 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

ita is in her scary place

The Valley?


sarameg - Aug 11, 2006 8:54:51 am PDT #2110 of 10001

Dear msbelle's Boss-

msbelle contains all the happiness today. Please excuse her so she can use it properly.

Sincerely, The Cranky One You Really Don't Want to Deal With Today

PS. Smash that stupid caveman while you are at it. He's eating his boogers again.


§ ita § - Aug 11, 2006 8:54:53 am PDT #2111 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Simi Valley.


aurelia - Aug 11, 2006 8:56:00 am PDT #2112 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

sheepdog/coyote slash

[link]


tommyrot - Aug 11, 2006 8:56:29 am PDT #2113 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Star Trek inspirational posters: [link]


tommyrot - Aug 11, 2006 9:04:26 am PDT #2114 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

No concept lies more firmly embedded in our national character than the notion that the USA is "No. 1," "the greatest." Our broadcast media are, in essence, continuous advertisements for the brand name "America Is No. 1." Any office seeker saying otherwise would be committing political suicide. In fact, anyone saying otherwise will be labeled "un-American." We're an "empire," ain't we? Sure we are. An empire without a manufacturing base. An empire that must borrow $2 billion a day from its competitors in order to function. Yet the delusion is ineradicable. We're No. 1. Well...this is the country you really live in:

[link] (Has a big-ass list of ways in which we're far from #1)

"Of the 20 most developed countries in the world, the U.S. was dead last in the growth rate of total compensation to its workforce in the 1980s.... In the 1990s, the U.S. average compensation growth rate grew only slightly, at an annual rate of about 0.1 percent" (The European Dream, p.39). Yet Americans work longer hours per year than any other industrialized country, and get less vacation time.

eta:

The World Health Organization "ranked the countries of the world in terms of overall health performance, and the U.S. [was]...37th." In the fairness of health care, we're 54th. "The irony is that the United States spends more per capita for health care than any other nation in the world" (The European Dream, pp.79-80). Pay more, get lots, lots less.