I need entertainment!

They fed us lunch from Shiok, and no one seems to need me to do any work right now, and staying alert seems to be on the not happening list.

I can see believing in the supernatural in some definition without believing in god. Although you'd have to define both terms more specifically than we've (mostly) been doing here.

I can see this too, I just find it contradictory in hard-line atheists, which I would think pull you out of the above category.

I guess when I was a kid/teenager, I was a hard atheist. I eventually grew out of it, because, well, it was kind of assholey. Now I guess I'm a soft atheist. Don't believe in God or gods but don't give a crap if other people do.

I believe in God. I pray. But i don't know that I'd classify myself as a Christian. I often do, because it's easiest to say when people ask me.

My brain has melted too much to be able to contribute thoughtfully to the religious discussion, but I am enjoying reading everyone's opinions, theories etc.

The apartment is half clean. I am a complete sweaty mess. Two hours to go until I meet Dave's mom. (I almost typed mother in law, thanks Kristin).

It seems to me that once you believe in the supernatural it seems silly to declare God an impossibility.

Is the reverse true? I mean, can you believe in God and be absolutely sure other portions of the supernatural don't exist?

I just don't get what would stop God from being, I dunno, Boss Ghost.

The boss ghost being whose ghost? What made them godlike? Why is boss ghost more godlike than Donald Trump?

Why is boss ghost more godlike than Donald Trump?

Because of the whole blinvisible thing.

Proselytizing athiests fit a category well known in all belief systems -- wackos.

Proselytizing atheists weren't the people (and evangelizing wasn't the action) I was trying to identify, when I was talking about a similarity I see between atheists and fundamentalist Christians. I was trying to discuss a certain read of the Bible, not any other behavior.

I can see believing in the supernatural in some definition without believing in god. Although you'd have to define both terms more specifically than we've (mostly) been doing here.

I can see this too, I just find it contradictory in hard-line atheists, which I would think pull you out of the above category.

I can sort of see it, but honestly without the aformentioned definition of terms, I think the claim to atheism while believing there are ghosts is hair-splitting in a way, too. It's acknowledging the supernatural, the non-material, the spiritual. To me, one person's ghost is another person's deity.

Because of the whole blinvisible thing.

What does invisibility confer other than being hard to see? What sort of power or specialness is there?

Do people really run into proselytizing atheists?

Yes, they tend to be very bent on calling me an idiot, sheep, etc. for believing something unknowable. Which cracks me up since so do they.