He was wearing black boots, jeans, a black belt, a lavender button-up dress shirt, and a black sportcoat. There was nothing girly at all about his look. He was All Man, baby!

...I'd still be surprised if these clothes weren't bought from a women's clothing outlet. That's my point. He generally wear's women's clothes. Not flouncy girly clothes (although I still remember the early days, when he first Came Out as a TV, but before he got a stylist/someone gave him a good talking to), but usually women's clothes nevertheless, even if it's just a pair of jeans and a plain white shirt.

All the hype around Brokeback Mountain makes kids question their friendships with same sex friends

???

(1) I bet it doesn't. I don't think many kids are watching it and analyzing the dynamics of the central relationship, although I dare say a lot of them have heard of the gay cowboy movie and are making jokes about it.

(2) If it DOES...well, er, good. Nothing wrong with asking questions. 'Do I fancy person X?' is pretty easily answered if you don't fancy X. And if you do fancy them, the knowledge of the existence of a movie about gay cowboys has not magically made you gay. Although it may have cluesticked you about the fact that you're not so much with the straight.

Honest to God. They're worrying about a movie slashing people? That's...novel.

I am replacing the word "awesome" with the word "brilliant" in my vocabulary.

Bless!

Or (in regard to the same-sex friends thing) mean that parents are pressuring their kids about spending too much time with friends of the same sex. As in "aren't you spending a lot of time with X? shouldn't you spend some time with boys/girls?".

On teh Gay front, for some reason, this really irritates me: [link]

??? Please to explain, as my brain isn't functioning at all and all I can think of is St. Paul (nee Saul of Tarsus), and I'm pretty sure that's not what you mean.

Um, yes, that's what I mean. As in:

Saul Eddie wandering along, happily not being Christian wearing girls' clothes.

Kaboom! Insta-conversion en route to Damascus! Starbucks.

SaulEddie stops wearing the letter S girls' clothes and dons the letter P boys' clothes instead, and goes off to by a misogynistic Christian letter-writing s.o.b be Captain Straight of Straightonia, shopping only in Men's shops and eschewing makeup and heels.

...making more sense? Or am I hopelessly inarticulate?

eta

...wrt my, er, incisive assessment of Pauline doctrine - sorry, I make no claims to know very much about Paul, and he may have had a bad press, and been less shitty than he appears to be. My knowledge is v. patchy. Apologies if my characterisation was offensive/inaccurate.

...making more sense?

Hee! Makes much more sense now.

But transvestites don't tend to convert, not even when a deity lays them out flat on the road to Damascus. (IMHO.)

t edit Which I know that you (Fay) know.

Therein lies my puzzlement at Gloomcookie's conviction that he was not wearing women's clothes. I've no problems with believing he was wearing trousers and gender neutral looking things, but afaik they're all women's clothes, 'cause that's his thing.

steps away from dead horse. puts down flogging device. looks sheepish.

I've seen Eddie Izzard in interviews and such wearing bloke's clothing. I think his thing is more that he feels like everyone should be able to switch between looking pretty and feminine and looking a bit more blokish. I've often heard him talk about the unfairness of women being allowed to wear trousers, but men not being able to wear skirts.

That being said, I've never seen him perform without at least a pair of heels and some lippy.

eta proofreading. Silly Jars.

I have no horse in this debate, but I believe he even made mention of the fact that he was in men's clothes but reserved the right to still wear women's. He did a whole bit about being a transvestite/not being a transvestite.

Bleah. I have no birthday present for Hec yet, though I have an idea. And I just had an epiphany this morning about something I'd been looking at and entranced by for several weeks, and just now realized that it is in fact obviously a long-delayed anniversary present (a somewhat selfish one, as I suspect I'll enjoy it at least as much as he will, but I'm quite certain he will enjoy it).

I also still have Teppy's birthday thang sitting on the mantel at home, which will be way late but which should make her squee, assuming it gets to her before Christmas, by which time she may be the smallest bit resentful.

It's not that I suck at the present-getting, it's just that I truly blow at the "in a timely fashion" part of the whole deal.