How's it sit? Pretty cunning, don'tchya think?

Jayne ,'The Message'


F2F 4: Too Much Candy, Never Enough Mojitos.  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: Madison, WI from June 20-22 2008! Official website.


brenda m - Aug 02, 2007 11:28:42 am PDT #6417 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

t backing away slowly


DavidS - Aug 02, 2007 11:34:37 am PDT #6418 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Please, omnis, tell us more about this "instant run-off voting."


omnis_audis - Aug 02, 2007 11:41:30 am PDT #6419 of 10002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

oops, that's what I get for looking over the sand-bags.

In all honesty, I can barely give you the concept of it. It is something the local Green Party has been pushing for elections. It saves candidates money. Saves the localities money. And it gets you an elected official in half the time, and reduces voter fatigue.

In a nutshell, rather than casting A vote. You cast a ranking vote. Of choices A-F, I prefer choice B, so that gets my #1 vote, and Choice C is my 2nd choice, and choice F my 3rd. Then, when you tally the votes, first you look to see if there is a clear winner. If not, you look to the 2nd choices... and so on down the line. It is at this point (or just slightly before it) that I go "huh?". Sounds good in theory, but I don't have the math formulas infront of me to see how it works. Not sure it would work in here. It certainly would make tallying the vote harder.

For more info, here is the link to Wiki: [link]


DavidS - Aug 02, 2007 11:43:10 am PDT #6420 of 10002
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

It is something the local Green Party has been pushing for elections.

Aha! A communist plot.

I'm teasing, omnis. We had a HUGE HUGE discussion and fight about preferential voting when we were establishing the board's voting structure.

People still get twitchy when the subject comes up.


omnis_audis - Aug 02, 2007 11:50:22 am PDT #6421 of 10002
omnis, pursue. That's an order from a shy woman who can use M-16. - Shir

oops, did I shoot the sacred elephant? Damn. Eh, lucky I'm part of the Communist plot, so religion is not needed ;-)

It would be a lot harder to implement. While it has advantages, it's not perfect. And since I am such a junior member of this lovely board, I am not going to push it AT ALL. Just leave it at the suggestion above, and duck from oncoming bullets. Hate for my red blood to spill... wait, I'm Green. Wait. Does that make me Vulcan (having green blood). Wait! Now I'm confused. /natter.


brenda m - Aug 02, 2007 11:57:47 am PDT #6422 of 10002
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

No worries, omnis. It cracks me up every time it comes up.


Trudy Booth - Aug 02, 2007 12:06:10 pm PDT #6423 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

oops, did I shoot the sacred elephant? Damn

No worries, omnis. It cracks me up every time it comes up.

Well, it has its merits. That's why it keeps coming up.


Hil R. - Aug 02, 2007 8:10:48 pm PDT #6424 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Of course, "preferential voting" is really a vague term. There are several systems of vote counting that'll let people vote rank their choices, rather than just choosing one. (I TAed Math and Politics a few times. There were five or six of these methods that we taught. Plus Arrow's Impossibility Theorem, which is always a fun one to explain to undergrads -- it shows that it's impossible to design a voting system that satisfies every criterion in a particular list of rather reasonable-seeming criteria. The proof loops through several proofs by contradiction -- it's kind of neat, actually.)

t edit: didn't mean to get all lectury. It's been a long day.


Laga - Aug 02, 2007 11:01:28 pm PDT #6425 of 10002
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Despite all my talk of Chicago I just realized that I think every F2F should be in a new venue. I would happily visit KC or Minneapolis. I've never been to either place.


Zenkitty - Aug 03, 2007 10:38:58 am PDT #6426 of 10002
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I just loved the Highland Inn in Atlanta, btw, which while it wasn't shiny or modern or de-luxe, was quirky and clean and very accommodating....

My only, only dislike at Highland Inn was that the hospitality suite being divided into two rooms made it cramped and difficult for a lot of people to be in the same room at once. I found it uncomfortable. Of course, I like hospitality suites to have king-size beds in them, too. *shrug*