And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


F2F 4: Too Much Candy, Never Enough Mojitos.  

Plan what to do, what to wear (you can never go wrong with a corset), and get ready for the next BuffistaCon: Madison, WI from June 20-22 2008! Official website.


victor infante - Aug 20, 2006 11:50:24 am PDT #3562 of 10002
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

If we're in do over territory, would an "absolutely can't" category be useful?


DebetEsse - Aug 20, 2006 11:53:21 am PDT #3563 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I assumed that each date would be "check if you can come" with some sort of secondary preference question thing, like there was on the previous ballot.


Jessica - Aug 20, 2006 12:05:58 pm PDT #3564 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Jesus Christ y'all, it was a poll. Nothing's been set in stone, and nothing was intended to be.

Seriously, chill. There was a 6 vote difference between the most and least favored weekends -- not exactly a mandate to choose or reject any one of them.


Nicole - Aug 20, 2006 12:13:05 pm PDT #3565 of 10002
I'm getting the pig!

Anyone interested in just doing a poll on whether we should vote city or date first?


DebetEsse - Aug 20, 2006 12:15:07 pm PDT #3566 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Jesus Christ y'all, it was a poll. Nothing's been set in stone, and nothing was intended to be.

This is not my understanding. I thought we were voting to set the date of the F2F.


Theodosia - Aug 20, 2006 1:39:58 pm PDT #3567 of 10002
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

FWIW, Worldcon site selection is city-location/date -- i.e. each bid committee submits their date or date/range (because they have to secure a certain amount of hotel/convention space well in advance). So an NC bid might be weeks off from a Boston bid, because of weather and hotel availability.

It's a bit like bidding apples and oranges, but you might as well bid for the best apple and the best orange you can put together.

Certainly, with the poll for the dates, we have a better idea of what weekends work much worse than others.


Pix - Aug 20, 2006 4:02:19 pm PDT #3568 of 10002
The status is NOT quo.

Liese S. - Aug 20, 2006 5:22:25 pm PDT #3569 of 10002
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I'm with Victor in appreciating a "can't" version of the date poll if we revote. I think that's more informative than a "can" version, alongside voting for our favorite date.


DebetEsse - Aug 20, 2006 7:19:31 pm PDT #3570 of 10002
Woe to the fucking wicked.

I'm with Victor in appreciating a "can't" version of the date poll if we revote. I think that's more informative than a "can" version

I'm not seeing the difference.


-t - Aug 20, 2006 7:53:32 pm PDT #3571 of 10002
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

It should be the same information either way - the date with the most "can attend" votes ought to be the same as what would have gotten the least "can't attend" votes.

Looking at the poll we just did, assuming that each voter cast one vote for favorite and also checked the appropriate able to attend boxes the "can't attend" results should be

June 8-10 : 3

June 15-17 : 6

June 1-3 : 6

June 22-24 : 10

May 18-20: 10

FWIW, all the Press announcements about the poll call it a poll about the dates rather than a vote to set the dates, and 38 votes is not a lot to be making a final decision on. OTOH, we had the dates picked in July last year. Thirdly, a bunch of people who thought they would not be able to come this year were able to, and the other way around, so I don't know how much agonizing at this stage is going to affect actual attendance.