You're talking to Serenity. And, Early... Serenity is very unhappy.

River ,'Objects In Space'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


brenda m - Jan 06, 2008 2:35:47 pm PST #9375 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

There's a proportion issue too - sure, Clooney makes obscene amounts of money. As do about a hundred other people at his level, and maybe a thousand or so a notch down. Most people are making a living ranging from comfortable to scraping for rent. Not terribly different than just about any other industry, and quite possibly far less, just better publicized.


Kevin - Jan 06, 2008 2:51:50 pm PST #9376 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Clooney has also been involved in many social and political issues over the years, and has done many personal project films.

I noticed the UA deal failed to materialise. I wonder if Nikki Finke buggered it up by running the story early.


Kristen - Jan 06, 2008 4:29:17 pm PST #9377 of 10001

I noticed the UA deal failed to materialise. I wonder if Nikki Finke buggered it up by running the story early.

I always thought it was odd that it was being "announced on Sunday." Why not Monday?

I suspect we'll hear something, confirmation or denial, tomorrow.


Fay - Jan 06, 2008 10:24:03 pm PST #9378 of 10001
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Not terribly different than just about any other industry, and quite possibly far less, just better publicized.

Well, a couple of years ago (when I was thinking about trying to get into acting) the average actor in the UK earned 10,000 sterling per annum, iirc. I would imagine that most actors stateside are equally strapped for cash, even though the big names earn shitloads of cash. The people at the top in any industry are earning shitloads of cash.


aurelia - Jan 06, 2008 11:56:39 pm PST #9379 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Most actors stateside are waiters or temps.


Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 07, 2008 5:10:29 am PST #9380 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I do think the curve is a bit steeper for actors than most, though. I don't imagine the best garbage collectors in the world earn over a thousand times what the average one makes.

One of the big things that got me riled up about the NHL strike was some players' attitude that they were being robbed with their paltry $8 million dollar salaries for being better than anyone else at smacking a piece of rubber around with a stick. Dude, that's a skill with no intrinsic value beyond how many people you can entertain by displaying it, and it was very clear that that number was not high enough to sustain the escalating payrolls.

It's the same thing with actors. If you can get a movie $100 million in business just by being in it, you're worth the $25 million paycheck. If you turn in devastatingly skillful renditions of King Lear that will only half fill a 500 seat theatre, better brush up on your clerical skills.


WindSparrow - Jan 07, 2008 5:15:25 am PST #9381 of 10001
Love is stronger than death and harder than sorrow. Those who practice it are fierce like the light of stars traveling eons to pierce the night.

Ok, this may be just me, but a red scarf from Andi would be much more likely to get me to donate than a script. IJS.

Lack of other response makes me think I totally missed the chance to get them into carepackages for the writers. Tell ya what, libkitty, you donate to the Work Stoppage Relief Fund [link] , send me the receipt, and I'll send you one of the scarves. Any one else who wants a red scarf, same deal, there are four of them. At the end of the week any that are unspoken for I'm giving away elsewhere. If I get really wacky, they might end up with family.


Vortex - Jan 07, 2008 5:46:15 am PST #9382 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Well, a couple of years ago (when I was thinking about trying to get into acting) the average actor in the UK earned 10,000 sterling per annum, iirc. I would imagine that most actors stateside are equally strapped for cash, even though the big names earn shitloads of cash. The people at the top in any industry are earning shitloads of cash.

I think that I read somewhere that less than ten percent of the members of the Screen Actors Guild make enough money acting to live on. (it might have been two percent). Also, I saw a special about working actors back when I was in college and thinking about it, and this woman said "I've been waiting tables for 15 years, but if I ever have to write down my profession, I say 'actress'. " That was rather sobering.


Wolfram - Jan 07, 2008 6:56:01 am PST #9383 of 10001
Visilurking

So you know that Leno thing where WGA attacked him for writing his own monologue. Craig Mazin points out that Leno's monologue is not written material under the current strike rules. He cites (and parses) the passage that defines what isn't strike-prohibited written material:

material written by the person who delivers it on the air unless such person has written material for delivery by another person as well as by himself/herself on that particular program; provided that, unless elsewhere herein excluded, the following shall not be excluded: Such material written for any dramatic programs, and such material written for comedy-variety programs broadcast in prime time on a basis of once-a-week or less unless the material was completely written for another purpose prior to such person’s engagement.

I guess NBC was right. [link]


Jon B. - Jan 07, 2008 7:04:25 am PST #9384 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

material written by the person who delivers it on the air unless such person has written material for delivery by another person as well as by himself/herself on that particular program;

Were the audience members fed questions during the first night Q&A?