What to buy for xmas if not TV DVDs? [link]
Yes, it's terribly simple. The good guys are always stalwart and true, the bad guys are easily distinguished by their pointy horns or black hats, and, uh, we always defeat them and save the day. No one ever dies, and everybody lives happily ever after.
Giles ,'Conversations with Dead People'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
brenda m - Dec 19, 2007 11:12:28 am PST #9180 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Allyson - Dec 19, 2007 11:22:11 am PST #9181 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
I don't get not buying DVDs, since the writers and other guilds get residuals from them.
Kevin - Dec 19, 2007 11:27:45 am PST #9182 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Yeah, I've never quite got the logic behind it. I suppose it's 'the studios get a majority share of the revenue so will suffer most'.
Wolfram - Dec 19, 2007 11:28:01 am PST #9183 of 10001
Visilurking
I guess they mean, buy the tv DVDs after the residual goes up. But a) I don't think the residual would apply to previous (currently existing) content, and b) I thought the DVD residual was off the table. Although there is no table to be off of right now. Except the one being pounded?
Yeah, not buying DVDs makes no sense.
Polter-Cow - Dec 19, 2007 11:32:13 am PST #9184 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
I thought the DVD residual was off the table
Nothing is off the table. They took it off the table in an attempt to avoid the strike in the first place, but the AMPTP didn't give them an offer on streaming content like they said they would.
I don't think the residual would apply to previous (currently existing) content
That's an interesting point. I never thought of that. I don't know if that's true or not. I just assumed the pay structure would change for all sales post-agreement.
Trudy Booth - Dec 19, 2007 11:35:29 am PST #9185 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I don't think the residual would apply to previous (currently existing) content
I assume that is part of the debate as well.
Tamara - Dec 19, 2007 11:45:10 am PST #9186 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
Since residuals are most likely paid on at least a one quarter lag (and may even be annually) and any change in the residuals formula could be made retroactive to whatever date the negotiators wanted, I don't see how changing DVD buying habits would impact anything.
Wolfram - Dec 19, 2007 12:24:40 pm PST #9187 of 10001
Visilurking
I'm not sure how the WGA could sell retroactive residuals. I mean the whole point of residuals is that you give up ownership on the content in exchange for an agreed-upon percentage. It's built into the fee structure. I'm not sure I even agree that there should be retroactive residuals. It's up to writers to change the fees before performing the work, not afterward.
That's why, unfortunately, writers of I Love Lucy and their ilk sold content under a bad deal and continue to get no residuals, even after negotiations ended that unfair practice.
Tamara - Dec 19, 2007 2:38:49 pm PST #9188 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.
It's up to writers to change the fees before performing the work, not afterward.
Well in that case, buying DVDs right now certainly wouldn't matter since all the writers' work was done ages ago for any DVD product.
Except for commentary and other added value material.
chrismg - Dec 19, 2007 7:18:44 pm PST #9189 of 10001
"...and then Legolas and the Hulk destroy the entire Greek army." - Penny Arcade
Evening, all. Were any WGA Buffistae at the Writers Guild Informational Meeting Monday night? Mark Evanier has a report that says there was a lot of solidarity, both among the WGA and with the SAG people.
Don't know if it's significant, but it's nice to hear.