I'm just waiting to see if I pass out. Long story.

Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


CaBil - Dec 09, 2007 6:52:32 pm PST #8865 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, these are the base rates that everyone agrees will be the floor. It is that for writers rarely have the ability to negotiate a deal better the base rate. Usually a writer gets the big bucks for becoming a hyphenate (writer-producer) and the big bucks come from the producer half of their duties. As a theoretical example, Joss Whedon gets paid for every Buffy DVD out of several different payment pools, one being for the writers of the episodes and another for producers. I am willing he makes more money as a exec producer per episode than what he makes as a writer. Heck, I am sure that his cut for being a director of an episode is more than the writer's cut (assuming that there is DGA minimum for TV)

I think individual directors are in much better position to get more money than writers. So while the base rate is the same, the typical DGA member is a much better position to negotiate a better rate for himself than the writer ever is. So the DGA as an entity has not fought for bigger pie slices.

As for the difference between net and gross. If you don't get gross percentage, it's not worth bothering. Virtually every film you care to name has lost money according to net accounting, along with most TV shows. I am sure that if the writers accepted net points, they would get nothing.


Wolfram - Dec 09, 2007 7:06:10 pm PST #8866 of 10001
Visilurking

So while the base rate is the same, the typical DGA member is a much better position to negotiate a better rate for himself than the writer ever is. So the DGA as an entity has not fought for bigger pie slices.

This makes perfect sense, thanks.

As for the difference between net and gross. If you don't get gross percentage, it's not worth bothering. Virtually every film you care to name has lost money according to net accounting, along with most TV shows. I am sure that if the writers accepted net points, they would get nothing.

So the argument that paying writers a percentage of unknown profits in new media is a win/win for writers and studios is somewhat disingenuous. In fact, gross percentages can make the difference on whether a project has a net profit or not. (This doesn't mean that the studios don't lie about the net accounting and make gobs and gobs of money anyway, just that the argument is not so simplistic.)


Aims - Dec 09, 2007 7:22:19 pm PST #8867 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

[link] I don't know who the girl standing next to Gunn is (and I'll feel extra silly if it's someone I should know) but I also own the shirt she's wearing and so it's kinda like I was there! Which I totally would have been if I still lived in LA.

ETA: That's totally Amy Acker, isn't it? Hee!


Vortex - Dec 09, 2007 7:25:54 pm PST #8868 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Isn't that Amy Acker?


Aims - Dec 09, 2007 7:28:19 pm PST #8869 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Bwah! We share a name and good taste in clothes!!


Theresa - Dec 09, 2007 7:33:20 pm PST #8870 of 10001
"What would it take to get your daughter to stop tweeting about this?"

I didn't recognize her in another picture when she was walking with Joss. I had an 'oh wow, that's amy acker' moment too.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2007 7:44:13 pm PST #8871 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Gotta say I'm liking Amy's haircut.


P.M. Marc - Dec 09, 2007 9:01:45 pm PST #8872 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I was going to roll my eyes affectionately at you, David, but then I saw this picture [link] and I have to say, I think she's found her perfect length.


DavidS - Dec 09, 2007 9:30:00 pm PST #8873 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I was going to roll my eyes affectionately at you, David, but then I saw this picture [link], and I have to say, I think she's found her perfect length.

See what I'm saying? She's got Audrey Tatou-like delicacy that comes out at that length.


Gris - Dec 10, 2007 1:34:31 am PST #8874 of 10001
Hey. New board.

Wow. That is gorgeous. What a pretty girl.