And you're sure this isn't just some fanboy thing? 'Cause I've fought more than a couple pimply, overweight vamps that called themselves Lestat.

Buffy ,'Lessons'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2007 1:25:17 pm PST #8514 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

I get the impression that Carson Daly would still be a douche whether or not there were a writers' strike.

Seriously.

I think Nilly was the tourist I was with in Rockefeller Center when someone from his show staff came over trying to get us to be audience members.

Anyway, I feel semi-conflicted about watching Ellen, but she is doing stuff like showing old recorded bits and having a zillion little-kid guests.


msbelle - Nov 27, 2007 1:29:16 pm PST #8515 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

She is also mentioning the strike and saying she wants the writers to get what they want. I know people are still not happy with her, but I think it is good to get the word out even briefly to thousands and thousands of people who are not that aware.


CaBil - Nov 27, 2007 3:16:12 pm PST #8516 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Well, if he delivers an opening monologue to his show, I think the question becomes who wrote that monologue? It is my (limited) understanding that Leno and Letterman et. al have writer teams that put together opening monologues, skits and so on.

Kristen, I thought for signatory companies, if you are not a WGA member, you can only do X amount of work before being required to become a member. X being dependent on what kind of show you are working on, I think for one hour dramas you have to become a member after your second full hour script.


§ ita § - Nov 27, 2007 3:23:36 pm PST #8517 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think they should all improvise until the strike is over.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2007 3:25:07 pm PST #8518 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Ellen is definitely making it up as she goes along -- and she has extra time to kill at the end of almost every show.


Wolfram - Nov 27, 2007 3:26:25 pm PST #8519 of 10001
Visilurking

Kristen, I thought for signatory companies, if you are not a WGA member, you can only do X amount of work before being required to become a member. X being dependent on what kind of show you are working on, I think for one hour dramas you have to become a member after your second full hour script.

Not Kristen, but I think she means going fi-core. Which is something the studios were trying to tell writers was okay to do.


Jon B. - Nov 27, 2007 3:26:47 pm PST #8520 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

if you are not a WGA member, you can only do X amount of work before being required to become a member.

That's definitely true for actors. If I'm ever asked to do another White Castle ad, I'll need to join the SAG.


lori - Nov 27, 2007 3:28:09 pm PST #8521 of 10001

What has Ellen been doing to kill time at then end of shows? I should really Tivo.


Kristen - Nov 27, 2007 3:36:04 pm PST #8522 of 10001

Kristen, I thought for signatory companies, if you are not a WGA member, you can only do X amount of work before being required to become a member. X being dependent on what kind of show you are working on, I think for one hour dramas you have to become a member after your second full hour script.

You are correct. Sort of.

Once you've earned 24 credits, you get the "join or die" call from the WGA. Under Federal Law, however, you can choose not to join the union (or resign from the union after you're a member) and, instead, become a Financial Core Non-Member. You still have to pay dues and are covered by the collective bargaining agreement but you're not subject to the rules and regulations that govern Guild members. For example, you can work for non-signatories. You could also, if you chose to, work during a strike. (Though I don't believe the majority of people who resign from their union do it with this in mind.)

There are very few (like, 7 or 8) fi-core non-members in the WGA. I don't think the DGA has many either. (Though George Lucas is one of them.) My understanding is that SAG has a greater number of fi-core non-members. Actors who can't get work with the big studios resign from the union so they can work for the independents. Some people have resigned over credits issues. There also may be some people who resigned from their union over political contributions.


Jesse - Nov 27, 2007 3:36:22 pm PST #8523 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

The other day she had Joey Fatone (and JC!) doing The Singing Bee, and at the end of the show, she did several rounds of it. Usually, I just notice when I go to delete that the show is definitely over, but there are still 2-3 minutes left in the recording.