Prepare to uncouple -- uncouple.

Oz ,'Same Time, Same Place'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Gris - Aug 16, 2006 7:41:48 am PDT #841 of 10001
Hey. New board.

"Shiksa Goddess" may be a direct reference to a song from The Last Five Years. Is he or she a musical fan?


Aims - Aug 16, 2006 7:45:09 am PDT #842 of 10001
Shit's all sorts of different now.

[link] Yes, Cindy.


Vortex - Aug 16, 2006 7:46:36 am PDT #843 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Aren't Indians considered Caucasian?

depends on the geographical region of the referrer. For example, in London, Indians were referred to (and referred to themselves) as asian. Confused me a lot in the beginning.


Polter-Cow - Aug 16, 2006 7:49:54 am PDT #844 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Aren't Indians considered Caucasian?

Not when you're fitting people into ethnic/racial slots.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 7:50:46 am PDT #845 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Noo reason you can't be caucasian and Asian, though. I mean, calling them Asian doesn't make them the same "race" as most of China.

Which is possibly why both labels and race are kinda weak.

eta:

Not when you're fitting people into ethnic/racial slots.

Are you talking more than the old-school three racial slots? Caucasian isn't an ethnicity anyway.


Polter-Cow - Aug 16, 2006 8:07:40 am PDT #846 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Well, I'm talking when you mark checkboxes in surveys or case report forms.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 8:09:46 am PDT #847 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What do you put down?

I mean, the boxes on the forms vary depending on what data they need. Some are in the race mindset, other focus on ethnicity. Others are just crap forms.


Polter-Cow - Aug 16, 2006 8:14:39 am PDT #848 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The ever-popular Asian/Pacific Islander is normally the closest.


§ ita § - Aug 16, 2006 8:16:21 am PDT #849 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

The closest to you, or the closest to what you check? I have a strange suspicion that most of those forms aren't well thought out, but before my mother said "Fuck it, let's go with ethnicity instead" on her data collection, her research, if given three categories put your average Indian into the caucasian file.


Polter-Cow - Aug 16, 2006 8:19:51 am PDT #850 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I've always associated "Caucasian" with "white" and have interpreted the checkboxes accordingly. They usually have Caucasian, African-American, Hispanic, Native American, and Asian/Pacific Islander, and while that lumps me in with Chinese/Japanese/Vietnamese/Korean, it's the closest and the one I've always chosen. I may have asked the first time and been told to check that and never looked back.