Tact is just not saying true stuff. I'll pass.

Cordelia ,'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Wolfram - Nov 08, 2007 11:26:04 am PST #7680 of 10001
Visilurking

P-C, doubling the residual from .3% to .6% on home video (which includes DVDs and downloaded content like i-tunes) is firmly on the table.

I edited my earlier post. Internet downloads, like i-tunes, are not universally considered home video and I'm not sure if writers get paid for them now or not. I also don't know if writers want them considered home video for a .6% residual, or like streaming video, or a third category with a different residual entirely.


Polter-Cow - Nov 08, 2007 11:28:57 am PST #7681 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Wolfram, from my understanding, they don't get anything from iTunes downloads right now, and they're asking for 2.5% rather than the 0.6% they're asking for DVD residuals (I believe the AMPTP offered them 0.3% for iTunes downloads, but the WGA refused).


Kevin - Nov 08, 2007 11:32:18 am PST #7682 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Kevin, what SCC drama? Or is it the scheduling thing?

sumi, Polter-Cow linked to Josh Friedman's blog (he's the show runner), and I think you can get the basics from that. It looks like because he won't, for example, go and edit the show, they're saying they'll go and get other people do everything. On his show. So he's not happy.


Wolfram - Nov 08, 2007 11:36:50 am PST #7683 of 10001
Visilurking

(I believe the AMPTP offered them 0.3% for iTunes downloads, but the WGA refused).

I think that's right. But I could see the argument that iTunes downloads differ from streaming media and should be bound by the home video rate and not the airing-on-tv rate. (Or some rate in between that takes into account the negligible production and delivery costs on the downloaded product.)


Tamara - Nov 08, 2007 12:21:19 pm PST #7684 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

All residuals are based on wholesale. The studios have no control over retail. When was the last time you bought a DVD at MSRP?


Kristen - Nov 08, 2007 5:01:59 pm PST #7685 of 10001

The LA Times did a breakdown of where your DVD money goes.

As for iTunes, I'll be honest that I'm not completely clear on that issue. There's this thing called the "Sideletter on Exhibition of Motion Pictures Transmitted via the Internet," which is dated 2001. My understanding is that the WGA believes that, according to that letter, iTunes residuals should be 1.2%. The AMPTP believes that iTunes residuals should be 0.3%, just like DVDs. I'm told that they're in binding arbitration on this one.


le nubian - Nov 08, 2007 5:34:57 pm PST #7686 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

that breakdown is a trip. I love Moonves salary figures up there.


Polter-Cow - Nov 08, 2007 5:48:53 pm PST #7687 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

My understanding is that the WGA believes that, according to that letter, iTunes residuals should be 1.2%.

That number was quoted in the EW article I just read, except it said it was what the producers were offering, implying that the WGA wanted more (and according to Wolfram's link, yes, they want 2.5%).


Kristen - Nov 08, 2007 5:52:31 pm PST #7688 of 10001

The WGA wants 2.5% in the new contract. But the AMPTP has taken the position, in these current negotiations, that electronic sell through -- aka iTunes et al -- is the same as DVDs and should be paid at the same rate.

The arbitration, which pre-dates this negotiation, deals with all electronic sell through since the 2001 sideletter. I think Disney started this. They decided to lump iTunes sales in with DVD sales and pay it all at the same DVD rate.


le nubian - Nov 09, 2007 1:53:13 am PST #7689 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

[link]

The Terminator has gotten involved:

But the production halts have thrown many hundreds of crew members out of work, from hairstylists and makeup artists to camera operators and carpenters, with fallout rippling through the local economy.

"That's the sad story, because the studio executives are not going to suffer, the union leaders are not going to suffer, the writers that are striking, they are not going to suffer. Those are all people that have money," Schwarzenegger said when asked about the strike.