You know me! I'm like, "Go school! It's your birthday!" Or something to that effect.

Willow ,'Empty Places'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Nov 08, 2007 1:00:59 am PST #7630 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I can just imagine when The Office returns, the breaking a story meeting for the next episode. Let's call this one Promotional Material..


Theodosia - Nov 08, 2007 2:17:37 am PST #7631 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Actually, I really liked seeing the actor-writer-producers 'out of character'. I keep forgetting that 'Toby' is also a hyphenate. It makes me feel less bad for him when Michael picks on him so much and so unfairly.


victor infante - Nov 08, 2007 2:41:14 am PST #7632 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

My friend Chris Bird has put together a pretty exhaustive overview of the strike, why it matters and what various writers have said about it. The contrary opinion in the comments section is pretty good, too.


Tom Scola - Nov 08, 2007 3:14:33 am PST #7633 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

That link doesn't work for me, victor.


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2007 3:16:43 am PST #7634 of 10001
Trust my rage

Tom, when I pasted the link, but then took out the entry specific part of the URL, it took me straight there.


Julie - Nov 08, 2007 3:26:04 am PST #7635 of 10001

From digg.com comments..

For those who think writers don't deserve to get paid as much as actors:
"Xmen 2" versus "Xmen 3"
"Empire Strikes Back" versus "Return of the Jedi"
"Raiders of the Lost Ark" versus "Temple of Doom"

Cause, you know, true dat.

I am a WGA member and as much as I never wanted it to happen, I fully support this strike. For the folks who don't really understand what the fuss is about, try this (And I must credit fellow member Steve Chivers for this explanation):

The Studios/Networks put tv shows and movies on the internet and don't pay the writers/creators of those tv shows and movies. The companies call this 'promotional use'.

If you download a movie or tv show off the internet and don't pay for it, they call it "Piracy".

Again, true dat.

Right now we're picketing, which I guess is important from a p.r. standpoint (and I got to meet the guy who wrote Beetlejuice, which is cool), but I don't think it's exactly the most effective means of protest in 2007.

My theory about this strike is that the studios are secretly terrified. They're terrified that the Internet is going to render them irrelevant. Tomorrow Josh Whedon could "pitch" a show on Facebook, get five million people to say, "Yeah, I'll watch that," and get enough advertising to pay for it.

I'm wondering if instead of picketing the casts of The Office, Lost, Family Guy, the Daily Show, etc. shouldn't just make videos and upload them to YouTube? They could talk to the fans, read fan emails, sing show tunes, do improv, whatever... Obviously for contractual reasons they can't do versions of their show, but they could entertain people while explaining what the stirke is about, and maybe convince people not to watch TV for the duration of the strike. The studios have unlimited money and the writers don't, so the only way we can win this thing is by showing the networks that we don't need them. Which we don't. It's just that it's still a few years away before we can tell them to fuck off, and in the meantime we still need to eat.

Who is this masked Josh Whedon with all that pulling power, he's talking about?

okay, I'm guessing at this point, I probably just need to ... put the keyboard down. And step away from the internet.


Stephanie - Nov 08, 2007 3:42:25 am PST #7636 of 10001
Trust my rage

Despite bad punctuation and "Josh Whedon", I hope the writers continue to talk to the public using the internet. The few clips and blogs I've read have been very informative and interesting.


Kevin - Nov 08, 2007 3:45:07 am PST #7637 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

One of the things I'm personally pissed about is this: I got a battering on here a while ago for Aheming TV shows. So I went and got a proper US iTunes account, and started paying to download TV shows. I thought I was giving Tim and friends money for my downloads. That was my only interest in doing that. It cost me a lot of money.

And? It looks like I gave none of the creative people actual money.


CaBil - Nov 08, 2007 4:53:47 am PST #7638 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Response to the digg comments...

There is Amazon Unbox, CreateSpace, Associates combo.

It is possible to upload original content onto CreateSpace so that it would be available on Amazon Unbox for pay download, and create a widget that you could embed in your blog that would show teaser clips, and so that clicking on it would bring you to the Amazon Unbox purchase page. By setting up CreaeSpace account you can also sell hardcopy versions (DVDs) through Amazon.

It would take time (Amazon asks for 2-4 weeks to put up content) and money (Probably less than $50), and Amazon takes a good bite of it, but that can probably be negotiated if you can deliver eyeballs.

Put it up on one the WGA websites, and say that money will be for the strikers. That would a) support the strikers and b) remind the studios the future is coming in one fell swoop...


§ ita § - Nov 08, 2007 5:13:37 am PST #7639 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I got a battering on here a while ago for Aheming TV shows

It was a little bit more complicated than that, IIRC.