Faith: A kid. Angel's got a kid. Wesley: Connor. Faith: A teenage kid born last year. Wesley: I told you, he grew up in a hell dimension. Faith: Right. And what, Cordelia spent her last summer as… Wesley: A divine being. Faith: Uh-huh. Can I just ask--What the hell are you people doing?

'Why We Fight'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Nilly - Nov 06, 2007 12:56:39 am PST #7545 of 10001
Swouncing

A discussion I saw in an Israeli site mentioned the "Moonlighting" episode of "The Taming of the Shrew" as a way that this show found to deal with the strike of '88.


Tom Scola - Nov 06, 2007 1:13:21 am PST #7546 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

It wasn't "The Taming of the Shrew" episode, it was a different one. The show came up ten minutes short, so they tacked a musical number onto the end of it:

[link]


Stephanie - Nov 06, 2007 2:15:09 am PST #7547 of 10001
Trust my rage

I loved the Taming of the Shrew episode, but I was probably about 13 when it aired.

This strike is weird - I don't actually know (other than through here) any writers, but I read enough blogs and so on that it feels personal to me.


Nilly - Nov 06, 2007 2:18:16 am PST #7548 of 10001
Swouncing

Thanks for the correction, Tom!

Now, if I could only find the original place I read it, so that I could post there your correction as well. Hmm.


askye - Nov 06, 2007 3:44:39 am PST #7549 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

it resulted in the horrid episode that everyone called Riker's Brain

Is that the horrible clip show when Riker was dying and they bombarded him with bad memories and then good memories (like every time he tried to sex up an alien)? Because that was the episode that was on when I finally got my family to watch TNG to see how good it was and should be watched.

More on topic, this morning I was listening to a morning show and the djs were making the argument that the writers aren't in a strong place because of reality shows. I'm not sure if the arguement was the networks would just throw on a bunch of reality shows during the strike, or that the networks would decide to do a way with scripted shows in favor doing unscripted.


CaBil - Nov 06, 2007 3:52:12 am PST #7550 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

Yep, that was one askye. At least I hope to whatever writing gods you care to name that they only had to do that once.

Well, the truth is many reality shows are actually scripted to a degree. Part of the negotiations that lead up to the strike was to bring reality tv show writers under the protection of the WGA. Not sure if that is still an issue, but I assume it is. Someone was to create the situations and challenges for reality TV shows, and suggest storylines and even create the speeches for the hosts...


sumi - Nov 06, 2007 4:16:53 am PST #7551 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

I think that the reality show writers thing is one of the issues -- that and the new media stuff.


Laura - Nov 06, 2007 4:22:59 am PST #7552 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

So um, writing for reality isn't really writing? Good grief.


Julie - Nov 06, 2007 6:03:29 am PST #7553 of 10001

I read an article last week which addressed median salaries and amounts averaged over 10 years and said something along the lines that under those circumstances 90% of WGA members didn't earn over $100k a year and used phrases like "equivalent to a grade school teacher" but of course, I can't find it again now.

I did however, locate these facty links along the search.

The Ins and Outs of TV Series Writer Deals which breaks down the different ways a script can be "paid for" and includes indicative pricing

and

the WGA Contract 2007 - Pattern of Demands


Kat - Nov 06, 2007 6:44:53 am PST #7554 of 10001
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo

I read an article last week which addressed median salaries and amounts averaged over 10 years and said something along the lines that under those circumstances 90% of WGA members didn't earn over $100k a year and used phrases like "equivalent to a grade school teacher" but of course, I can't find it again now

I have to say, the "equivalent to a grade school teacher" is something that could totally piss me off out of context because (1)I am a grade school teacher (2) the implication is that the level of skill and professionalism necessary to write for TV is greater than the skill and professionalism necessary to teach (3) infers that teachers are less than writers, even though our education and professional credentialling requirements, particularly in california, rival that of other professions that require post-BA/BS work.