people are actually blaming the writers? WTF??
There are some people who are of the opinion that writers are all Very Rich. There was a bit in the press the other day about the average writer earning $200k a year or some such.
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[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Kevin - Nov 05, 2007 1:20:44 pm PST #7493 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Pix - Nov 05, 2007 1:27:02 pm PST #7494 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
There are some people who are of the opinion that writers are all Very Rich. There was a bit in the press the other day about the average writer earning $200k a year or some such....whereas the average producer is living in the poorhouse.
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tiggy - Nov 05, 2007 1:28:33 pm PST #7495 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
$200k a year in LA isn't exactly rolling in the dough though, is it? plus, what Kristin said. i don't see how wanting to get paid for something they created makes them the bad guy in this scenario.
Jesse - Nov 05, 2007 1:29:59 pm PST #7496 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Anyway, if that's the mean, it includes Shonda Rimes and other people who make millions as well as your regular writer-on-the-street.
§ ita § - Nov 05, 2007 1:31:24 pm PST #7497 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So what's happening to shows with Canadian writers? Are they likely to turn to Hollywood North for scab labour? Is it really scab if they're from a whole different country? Is there union relations between the two countries that'd dictate how everything should go down?
Allyson - Nov 05, 2007 1:32:16 pm PST #7498 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
200k a year in LA is rolling in dough.
Pix - Nov 05, 2007 1:33:21 pm PST #7499 of 10001
We're all getting played with, babe. -Weird Barbie
$200k a year in LA isn't exactly rolling in the dough though, is it?
Nope, it isn't. Not to say I would complain about making that much, but it certainly isn't much to the Hollywood crowd.
But again, successful writers work in an incredibly lucrative industry. The issue isn't how much people in TV/movies make in general; it's about fairness in dividing the profits overall.
ETA: x-post with Allyson--in case I wasn't clear, yes, $200K is rolling in dough for most of us. It isn't over the top for Hollywood, was what I meant. And honestly, I think that's beside the point anyway if all we're talking is residuals--not to mention that most writers make nowhere near that much.
tiggy - Nov 05, 2007 1:34:13 pm PST #7500 of 10001
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore
heh. thanks, Allyson. it would be here, but i know the cost of living in LA is vastly different from tennessee. what does the average person in LA make a year, i wonder?
Daisy Jane - Nov 05, 2007 1:35:36 pm PST #7501 of 10001
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Polter-Cow - Nov 05, 2007 1:36:04 pm PST #7502 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
As James Gunn said:
This strike is absolutely not a matter of the rich getting richer. We're not striking because of guys like me who have made numerous feature films, or guys like Greg Daniels who have created popular TV shows. This is for middle-class writers – your regular TV staff writers and people who may have done one or two small feature films. Residuals are a way they can make perhaps a few thousand dollars a year between gigs. This is a way they can put food on the table and pay the rent during downtime – and downtime is something almost all writers (and actors and directors) have.