Xander: Hey, Red. What you got in the basket, little girl? Buffy: Weapons.

Xander/Buffy ,'Help'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - Nov 03, 2007 10:30:21 am PDT #7375 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Marti joined the Facebook group for Dollhouse, which makes me smile.

I have a book writer friend who wrote something which got optioned for a movie years ago to a small company. They sold it on, until it ended up with Warner Bros. It came out last year, and it was a major motion picture. He got nothing for it, almost. Contracts. Literally, a few thousand quid for a worldwide wide release.

The studios themselves aren't helping the thing at the moment. Last week, 20th Century Fox launched it's co-developed (between studios) video streaming site which is designed to rival iTunes. The content is streamed, so the writers are getting absolutely nothing for it, and there's loads of stuff on it -- the complete Buffy The Vampire Slayer etc. If I wrote that, I'd be fucked off.


Polter-Cow - Nov 03, 2007 4:19:52 pm PDT #7376 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Huh. I didn't realize that horror movie I've been seeing ads for recently even though I'd never heard of it before, P2, starred Rachel Nichols.


JenP - Nov 03, 2007 4:33:06 pm PDT #7377 of 10001

Is that the woman who starred in The Inside ? I thought it looked like her, but I figured I was just making that up. Go, me, after all!


Invisible Green - Nov 03, 2007 4:44:00 pm PDT #7378 of 10001

If there are ads in the streaming video, then there's revenue, and the writers should be able to share in it. If the show is being streamed with no ads, or click through thingies, then there's no revenue and it makes sense to treat it as promotional.

According to the article that I read in the Wall Street Journal yesterday, writers make just as much off fee-based new media (e.g., iTunes) as they do off DVD and VHS sales (something like 0.3% for the first 1 million sales, and 0.36% after that). It's only when the videos are being streamed for free (regardless of whether or not there's advertisements) that the writers aren't seeing any money. Writers for "webisodes" are paid on a case-by-case basis.


Liese S. - Nov 03, 2007 5:45:30 pm PDT #7379 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

I think there's just a lot of newness in the whole digital realm, and it has yet to shake out properly. I think it's a good idea for writers to establish that they expect not to be abused in the process of figuring out where the new money trail lies.


Simon - Nov 04, 2007 8:38:26 am PST #7380 of 10001

A Tim post.

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Kevin - Nov 04, 2007 9:44:32 am PST #7381 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I'm going to start calling you Mister Universe, Simon.


lori - Nov 04, 2007 10:30:49 am PST #7382 of 10001

x-posted from Natter,

Heh, I'm at a Panera in Studio City, and a softball team of writers just came in, and are talking about where there are all supposed to go picket.


Kevin - Nov 04, 2007 10:32:55 am PST #7383 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

lori, Universal Studios from 9 till 1 tomorrow. The folk from Battlestar, Eureka, CSI and Desperate Housewives will be there. (The location is still undecided like, all the WGA has is 'a Gate on Lankershim').


Kristen - Nov 04, 2007 10:40:01 am PST #7384 of 10001

Kevin, that's not true for everyone. Where you picket depends on what show you're working on and/or where you live. Not everyone is going to the same place.