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Kevin - Aug 14, 2006 3:03:29 pm PDT #735 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Ultimately, Stargate is a niche show. It has a niche network, which is happy to support it.

Sci-fi on networks like FOX and ABC is always going to struggle, as it would need to break out of the niche appeal to survive. You've got to be very lucky, and have a really solid show.


Jessica - Aug 14, 2006 3:05:34 pm PDT #736 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

but there are SF fans who don't think Battlestar Galactica is SF.

While I am fully supportive of the Because They Are Batshit Crazy explanation, they do have David "Just Because I Produce A Show Called Battlestar Galactica Doesn't Mean I Have To Like SciFi" Eick on their side, which I suppose counts for something.

And I think scifi shows on the SciFi channel do not qualify for this kind of ranking, because the whole "being on the SciFi channel" means they are competing for a vastly reduced market share ('cause, cable), and also not so much competing with shows of other genres on the network.


Strega - Aug 14, 2006 3:13:08 pm PDT #737 of 10001

My sister hates SF, and loves BSG. Cracks me up.
I think Vandalisimo had a similar response. (ETA: To Galactica, I mean. I don't know if she's as amused by your sister as you are.)

4. The obvious one - the marketing. It's little harder to market something which has a narrower target audience than, say, a comedy.
That's #2. I don't think SF actually has a narrower target audience. Unless you've decided that your potential audience consists only of self-described SF fans. See above, but cop shows are not marketed just to "cop show fans."

Ohh. Tag?
Batshit crazy? Or "they're batshit crazy"? I mean, either way, sure. I'm just unsure what's tagworthy.

Mostly so I have a not-fat one.
Er...'kay. You did seem to be wearing a much larger person's clothes, but it's Allyson's fault for mentioning that or I wouldn't have noticed. You did not appear to be unduly hulking.


Gus - Aug 14, 2006 3:14:05 pm PDT #738 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

...being on the SciFi channel means they are competing for a vastly reduced market share ('cause, cable)...

Hmm. Is there anyone in this thread who receives TV over the airwaves? Not the sateliite airwaves ... the local airwaves.


Jessica - Aug 14, 2006 3:17:24 pm PDT #739 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Is there anyone in this thread who receives TV over the airwaves?

This thread is not representative of the general viewing public.

The current highest rated show on the SciFi Channel has 1/10th the viewership that American Idol does. Ratings that will get you instantly cancelled on network television will get you flowers and champagne and extra seasons on cable.


aurelia - Aug 14, 2006 3:17:28 pm PDT #740 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Hmm. Is there anyone in this thread who receives TV over the airwaves? Not the sateliite airwaves ... the local airwaves.

I do.


aurelia - Aug 14, 2006 3:25:11 pm PDT #741 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

I think Gus may be in shock. Quick, someone toss some cold water on him.


Gus - Aug 14, 2006 3:26:03 pm PDT #742 of 10001
Bag the crypto. Say what is on your mind.

People who are interested in SF are not representative of the general public. Anyway, that is what I parse out of this.

Tim can probably turn that into a forty minutes, with several laugh-out-louds.

aurelia: Okay. That is just weird.


aurelia - Aug 14, 2006 3:29:18 pm PDT #743 of 10001
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.

Okay. That is just weird.

Food and rent trump cable. It just is.


Strega - Aug 14, 2006 3:30:01 pm PDT #744 of 10001

As usual, what Jessica said. Before the basic cable explosion, there was a lot of original SF programming that was syndicated. Like, y'know, Star Trek. The requirements for survival are different than on a major network.

they do have David "Just Because I Produce A Show Called Battlestar Galactica Doesn't Mean I Have To Like SciFi" Eick on their side, which I suppose counts for something.

I should have been more clear, but the people I'm thinking of did not like Galactica because it wasn't "really" SF. Thus, my head hurt.