Good luck. Try not to kill people. Hands! Hands!

Willow ,'Storyteller'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Tamara - Oct 18, 2007 8:31:03 am PDT #7172 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

I think the quote means to say that the studios' position is that the writers would NOT receive any residuals for any new media...

I think the WGA is asking for 8 cents per DVD instead of the current 4 cents as well.


Polter-Cow - Oct 18, 2007 8:33:55 am PDT #7173 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I think the quote means to say that the studios' position is that the writers would NOT receive any residuals for any new media...

Yeah, that makes more sense to me. I was reading it again and not seeing the sense. Probably a transcription error. Because it doesn't make any sense for writers not to get residuals off that, as it's no different from getting DVD residuals.


Tom Scola - Oct 18, 2007 8:38:15 am PDT #7174 of 10001
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Hollywood Producers Drop a Key Demand

LOS ANGELES, Oct. 16 — Trying to break a three-month impasse in contract negotiations with Hollywood’s screenwriters, producers withdrew a contentious proposal on Tuesday that would have retooled the entertainment industry’s decades-old practice of paying so-called residuals for the reuse of movies and television programs on DVD and elsewhere.


Polter-Cow - Oct 18, 2007 8:42:00 am PDT #7175 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

So they've decided not to decrease the DVD residuals, but they've also said they won't increase them, if I read that right.


Kevin - Oct 18, 2007 8:50:05 am PDT #7176 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Writers not being paid for new media stuff is shit. That's why the BSG webisodes got killed, from memory.


Jon B. - Oct 18, 2007 9:37:26 am PDT #7177 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

Writers not being paid for new media stuff is shit.

If I understand correctly, the writers get paid for what they write; they just don't get residuals. Which is a big "just", but I wanted to clarify.


Kevin - Oct 18, 2007 9:47:08 am PDT #7178 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

As I understand it -- and I could well be wrong -- there's been situations where companies have claimed new media stuff comes under promotion, so the payment differs (or doesn't appear at all).


Tamara - Oct 18, 2007 9:50:08 am PDT #7179 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

So they drop a demand that was ludicrous in the first place. Seems like game tactics to me.


CaBil - Oct 19, 2007 3:55:29 am PDT #7180 of 10001
Remember, remember/the fifth of November/the Gunpowder Treason and Plot/I see no reason/Why Gunpowder Treason/Should ever be forgot.

The WGAw is also being a little bit crazed. Warren Ellis got this whacked out letter from the WGAw that he talked about in one of his posts.

Basically, the WGAw doesn't want its members to work in the new media during the strike, so to keep an united front. A stretch, but somewhat reasonable in some cases. For instance, getting writers to do BSG webisodes would take the sting out of the strike for BSG itself. But it is slightly wonky, since the WGA work agreements currently doesn't cover those areas.

Here is the thing. If anyone works in any new media or animation, they will be blacklisted. So let's say I, for whatever reason, am given an opportunity to work in animation, an area that the WGA doesn't cover and is not under contention in the contracts. If I take the job, I will be blacklisted from ever working with any WGAw signatory, which is virtually every LA production company that isn't a hole in the wall.


le nubian - Oct 19, 2007 5:23:34 am PDT #7181 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."

seriocity has had a couple of blogposts about this also:

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