A year and a half ago, I could have eviscerated him with my thoughts. Now I can barely hurt his feelings. Things used to be so much simpler.

Anya ,'Dirty Girls'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 30, 2007 6:16:03 am PDT #7073 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Johanna would like me to remind Tim that if he'd had a monkey on Drive things would have gone very differently.

Wonderfalls had a monkey, and it also only got to air 4 hours. IJS.


Nilly - Aug 30, 2007 8:12:50 am PDT #7074 of 10001
Swouncing

there's this faithless scam artist bilking old ladies out of their retirement money with smoke-and-mirror "miracles," and god's sense of humor is to give the dude the ability to perform miracles...but only when no one is around to witness it, and in such a way that it's just a hair over onto the ambiguous side so the event could be Scully-ed... Except he's never entirely sure it's a miracle or an accident, because he has no faith.

I have no idea if this is exactly the concept or not, but what you describe reads just brilliant to me.

Now, I do realize that I come to the whole question of religion from a completely different angle, not even because of who I am, what I believe in and what I do on my daily life, but mainly because of what I'm not.

I'm not an American, I have no clear idea regarding the actual day-to-day part religion plays in people's lives, and the different streams and ways-of-thought and practice that come into play. I don't know what stresses and pressures it causes in different communities, how the differences are being fought-over and settled. I don't really know how religion is being milked for money or power or any-other-thing in the USA. Pretty much, I only know that even what I know of my own religion is different across the ocean. So I don't really know anything about *that*, too.

Religion is a very tricky business here, what with the connection to local and somewhat wider politics, the friction between groups with a different set of beliefs and so forth. And that's just between the Jewish citizens of Israel, among themselves, without even putting the Islam or Christianity into the mix (and with Jerusalem, you kinda have to).

But the discussions and arguments about the whole topic, despite their turning-into-a-shouting-match potential, are always fascinating, to me. I mean, the very topic of what you mentioned, miracle-or-accident, interests me in so many levels. I love it that the interpretation of the event can always be left to the observer, that the way your thoughts about the matter have already been beforehand is pretty much what determines the way you're going to see whatever comes next.

I also love it that even if it is just a series-of-events which have a low statistic probability, you can still claim that the place in which their took place, their timing, stuff like that - *this* is in fact the miracle aspect of how things went along, and not just the event itself. And then you can get inside the whole question of G-d creating the world and how and did s/he put inside rules that they can't break themselves or what.

And that's even without getting into the whole aspect of "would you believe in a deity even without the existence of miracles", which is another thing that I find interesting, and which those short few sentences made me think about. And I didn't even mention the while "a good man who suffers through bad things, and a bad man who goes through good things" and -

OK, shutting up now. I shouldn't throw such large paragraphs over a show which is still at such an early stage, right? Um, oops.


smonster - Aug 30, 2007 8:45:20 am PDT #7075 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

I shouldn't throw such large paragraphs over a show which is still at such an early stage, right?

Pfft. Of course you should. It's lovely and proper and you.


Tamara - Aug 30, 2007 8:58:33 am PDT #7076 of 10001
You know, we could experiment and cancel football.

Fabulous! A new Tim show means more Nilly. Hurry Tim.


Ginger - Aug 30, 2007 9:03:12 am PDT #7077 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

I'll take every large paragraph from Nilly that I can get.


libkitty - Aug 30, 2007 9:22:51 am PDT #7078 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

OK, shutting up now. I shouldn't throw such large paragraphs over a show which is still at such an early stage, right? Um, oops.

Pfft. Of course you should. It's lovely and proper and you.

Sits in the corner with smonster. And Nilly. Grins widely.

I think religion is a fascinating topic. It's so important to so many people, whether they're religious or not. The way I read the description, the show will mine what for me is the most fascinating aspect of religion: the junction where the inspiration of God and the fallibility of people meet.

I think I may already be on season 2 of this show. Have I mentioned how much I love it already? I may have to watch other ABC shows just to express my appreciation for this one.


Liese S. - Aug 30, 2007 9:49:50 am PDT #7079 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Also, dude? The God I work with? Would totally pull a trick like that. He thinks he's funny. Also, he apparently thinks we're funny.

Your religion or lack thereof may vary.


Strega - Aug 30, 2007 11:55:54 am PDT #7080 of 10001

Wonderfalls had a monkey, and it also only got to air 4 hours. IJS.

It wasn't a real monkey. A real monkey with its own wee fingermonkey.

They could have matching outfits, too.


libkitty - Aug 30, 2007 12:17:41 pm PDT #7081 of 10001
Embrace the idea that we are the leaders we've been looking for. Grace Lee Boggs

I totally recognize the God Liese works with. Go figure.

Also, I vote for a monkey with a finger monkey. I'm not even in to monkeys all that much, but that just sounds fun. And kind of creepy. But mostly fun.


Matt the Bruins fan - Aug 30, 2007 12:38:17 pm PDT #7082 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

How many years have you monkey people been watching Tim's shows, again? You know he'll just traumatize us all with something like The Monkey King or that damn cursed toy monkey from the Stephen King story...