Spike: At least give me Wesley's office since he's gone. Angel: He's not gone. He's on a leave of absence. Spike: Yeah, right. Boo-hoo. Thought he killed his bloody father. Try staking your mother when she's coming on to you! Harmony: Well…that explains a lot.

'Destiny'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Kevin - May 01, 2007 6:54:28 am PDT #6533 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

But are they smarter than..

I'll stop now.


Stephanie - May 01, 2007 6:59:33 am PDT #6534 of 10001
Trust my rage

I don't get why FOX seems so schizophrenic when it comes to Tim and his shows. They love him enough to let him write, cast, and film the shows, but then they turn around and cancel them a few weeks later. I understand it's a numbers thing, but why do they approve his stuff in the first place if they are just going to cancel it three weeks after airing (or less).

(And don't get me wrong. I've liked all of Tim's shows. Wish there were more of them. But FOX's decision making process confuses me.)


Kevin - May 01, 2007 7:33:18 am PDT #6535 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Over inflated expectations? Clearly, they expected Drive to get much bigger numbers from the first episode.

The question is if that's actually over flated, or realistic from a business need point of view. And I don't think we know either way.

It's wacky in a way. Drive got more viewers than Firefly had overall. And The Inside. And Wonderfalls. And Angel. But it disappeared the quickest out of all of them.


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 7:52:31 am PDT #6536 of 10001
What is even happening?

Well, Tim's deal is with the FOX studio, which is different than the FOX network. I mean FOX made Buffy the Vampire Slayer which aired on The WB and then UPN, but never on the FOX network. FOX studio also made Angel, which only ever aired on The WB, and Firefly and Wonderfalls, which did air on the FOX network. The studio loves Tim. The network thinks it's going to, but loses its soul, as soon as it sleeps with him.


Stephanie - May 01, 2007 8:03:24 am PDT #6537 of 10001
Trust my rage

If only we had an Orb of Thessala, maybe we could bring Drive back.

(wow, I'm such a geek!)


victor infante - May 01, 2007 8:38:36 am PDT #6538 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

The studio loves Tim. The network thinks it's going to, but loses its soul, as soon as it sleeps with him.

Does that make their marketing department The Circle of the Black Thorn?


Topic!Cindy - May 01, 2007 8:50:38 am PDT #6539 of 10001
What is even happening?

You flatter them. Nothing but showy gypsy stuff.


DCJensen - May 01, 2007 9:30:49 am PDT #6540 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

Some geek.

I didn't know it was a geeky phrase. Just Scottish. Wait...is it a Star Trek thing, or something?

Not a star trek thing, but he has a history of discussions involving SF&Fantasy, and I wasn't limiting him to being a tech geek, just identifying him as a fellow geek, albeit a higher ranking one. The usage of ken is popular enough in SF&F for me to have picked it up there more than from the original scots.

He also refuses to try watching Firefly, so he is a bit suspect, already.


DCJensen - May 01, 2007 9:38:16 am PDT #6541 of 10001
All is well that ends in pizza.

not worth saying twice


Kevin - May 01, 2007 9:42:39 am PDT #6542 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

I used to hear it all the time when I lived in Aberdeen. Although it's also possible the people I knew were sci-fi/fantasy nerds.