And now my boy's in love. All hearts and flowers. But, doesn't it freak you out that she used to change your diapers? I mean, when you think about it, the first woman you boned is the closest thing you've ever had to a mother. Doing your mom and trying to kill your dad. Hm. There should be a play.

Angelus ,'Damage'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Spidra Webster - Apr 25, 2007 12:08:42 pm PDT #6275 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

And what an advertising opportunity. Car commercials up the wazoo.


victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 12:08:45 pm PDT #6276 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Fox is officially insane. This show deserves better treatment.


Laura - Apr 25, 2007 12:13:26 pm PDT #6277 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Two weeks

Yes, I was thinking that I had watched 3 nights. I'm just stunned. Television series need to just go direct to DVD. The whole network reasoning is beyond my comprehension. Ugh.


Spidra Webster - Apr 25, 2007 12:14:31 pm PDT #6278 of 10001
I wish I could just go somewhere to get flensed but none of the whaling ships near me take Medicare.

That's it. Instead of giving away toasters when you induct a new Buffista, we need to give away Nielsen boxes.


Polter-Cow - Apr 25, 2007 12:17:04 pm PDT #6279 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, it's Tim's most commercial, accessible show - I'm surprised it sunk so fast.

Me too. I honestly thought it would be a hit. I really did.


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 12:30:19 pm PDT #6280 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Me and Jackal spoke to FOX execs as part of Drive Fans. They thought it was going to be big also. It just goes to show it's not always possible for a network to launch anything with big numbers from the beginning.

The risky scheduling (3 hour, 2 day premiere) helped accelerate quick cancellation, in this posters opinion. The scheduling is the only thing I'd be negative on FOX for. Mostly, it's joe public's fault.


Kessie - Apr 25, 2007 12:34:48 pm PDT #6281 of 10001
The thing about life is :You can rehearse it all you want, But nobody else ever sticks to the script. So why bother?

Driveby to join the pouting crowd. I really liked the show, more than I though I would, cause I´m normally not big about car stuff. I wish I could understand why so few people watched, but I havent understood this for Wonderfalls or The Inside either. As some of the others here I thought it would be more accessible to a broader viewership cause there wasn´t any fantasy elements etc.
It really sucks sitting at the other end of the world without one of these Nielsen boxes. So I´m sending a virtual hug to Tim and Kristen and everyone else involved.
I know it doesnt count much but for me and my sis Corinna you made really good TV.


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 12:35:29 pm PDT #6282 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Confirmation on Drive from Variety: [link]

"Drive runs Out Of Gas".


Betsy HP - Apr 25, 2007 12:42:39 pm PDT #6283 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

If the success of shows were remotely (A) predictable or (B) ensurable, television schedulers would have much longer careers. It's not deterministic. There isn't a "right" thing you can do to ensure that a show that "deserves" success receives it.

Yes, those are sneer quotes. If there were any way, any way at all, to reliably, based on current information as opposed to hindsight, promote shows successfully, there would be no failures on the networks. If you could do it by sacrificing a golden-haired toddler hugging a retriever? No problem. Yet there much-promoted shows continue to fail, which is why toddlers and retrievers can continue to roam unmolested in Beverly Hills.

It isn't a matter of intelligence or will alone. You can be as clever as you like and still guess wrong.


Vortex - Apr 25, 2007 12:46:29 pm PDT #6284 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I think that what I find most frustrating is the lack of chance. Used to be that a show got 13 eps or so to prove its mettle. Drive's being yanked after two lousy weeks.