You got all kinds of learnin' and you made me look the fool without tryin', and yet here I am with a gun to your head. That's 'cause I got people with me. People who trust each other, who do for each other, and ain't always lookin' for the advantage.

Mal ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Stephanie - Apr 25, 2007 2:45:46 am PDT #6206 of 10001
Trust my rage

There were a couple of lines last night that really caught my attention - I guess gecause they were funny in sort of a bad way. Of course, I am totally blanking on them now.

I liked the "I don't have issues, I'm not white" line. It reminded me of a Jane Espenson blog post a while back on what makes things funny (like, reversing the two phrases would have made it way less funny).


Vortex - Apr 25, 2007 5:31:03 am PDT #6207 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

If Alex ever got his wife back, he'd be shortly hit by a bus...or an ambulance. That's classic Minear.

I am a leaf on the wind . . .

*sob*


victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 7:06:39 am PDT #6208 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

I think a lot of Tim's leading men echo Indiana Jones in a lot of ways, constantly getting the shit kicked out of them, pulling out the gun, finding it unloaded and running away to hope the bad guy gets shredded by a propeller in a stroke of serendipity.

There are several moments where Tully resembles Mal Reynolds. To quote my wife, sort of a "Capt. Tightpants meets 'A History of Violence.'"

I don't mean that as a bad thing ... I'm actually rather captivated, and Nathan Fillion does it so damned well.

But yeah, there's a lot of "Drive" that I'd see as classic Minear ... characters dying (the bit with Susan surprised me, although I hadn't gotten to know her so well that I was terribly affected yet. Whereas John Trimble's inevitable death? I'm already braced for that.) Quippy dialouge that doesn't sound like Joss' quippy dialouge, and characters that reveal themselves under Niska-like conditions.

The pace, however, is faster than anythign I've previously seen by him. (And neither "Firefly" nor "Wonderfalls" were slow IMHO. After the premiere, my wife said "Tim never wants to hear the words 'there's not enough action' from a network exec again, does he?"


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 7:50:18 am PDT #6209 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

Alex often resembles Angel more than Mal to me. Obviously, not physically.


Narrator - Apr 25, 2007 7:52:49 am PDT #6210 of 10001
The evil is this way?

Maybe physically too, if Nathan would just wear leather pants. (Did I just say that out loud?)


Kevin - Apr 25, 2007 7:54:05 am PDT #6211 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

And spike his hair.


victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 8:07:13 am PDT #6212 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Alex often resembles Angel more than Mal to me. Obviously, not physically.

See, I see more Mal, and not just because it's the same actor. It's a bit of the "I'm confused ... I'm angry ... and I'm armed." The little bit folksy, with a deep-seated rage underneath, and a desire for nothing more than to be left alone, whereas Angel was very much caught up in the "I'M A CHAMPION!!!" bit.


askye - Apr 25, 2007 8:20:08 am PDT #6213 of 10001
Thrive to spite them

I will admit that when Alex made the quip about it not being the same car, and then pulled the knife out of the glovebox I yelled "MAL!" but for the most part I try to keep them separate.

Although I will say that Wendy's "This is a gianormous mistake" sounded rather Fred like.


Allyson - Apr 25, 2007 8:26:22 am PDT #6214 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

"I'm confused ... I'm angry ... and I'm armed."

Like Indiana Jones!!


victor infante - Apr 25, 2007 8:32:45 am PDT #6215 of 10001
To understand what happened at the diner, we shall use Mr. Papaya! This is upsetting because he's the friendliest of fruits.

Like Indiana Jones!!

Exactly. Mal and Indie are brothers born in different galaxies.