unless they don't actually affect any changes and then they only serve to impress the people who have no understanding of how things really work or just like to see their name up in places a lot.
Dawn: I think a date should be in a real fancy restaurant, then champagne at a night club with a floor show, then ballroom dancing. Joyce: Unfortunately, we're not dating in a movie from the thirties.
'Get It Done'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
msbelle - Apr 20, 2007 9:44:41 am PDT #5909 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb
brenda m - Apr 20, 2007 9:46:49 am PDT #5910 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there
Delusion of power, more like. Is there anyone outside of tv petition organizers who actually buys into the "illusion"?
Allyson - Apr 20, 2007 9:47:36 am PDT #5911 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Awww. I feel like the Obiwan of fandom campaigns.
I have taught you well, young Jedis.
Kevin - Apr 20, 2007 9:57:01 am PDT #5912 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Oh, I'm not arguing they work, msbelle. As brenda m rightly points out, my wording should have delusion, hence why I think the UK govs optional move to allow online petitioning is a great idea (for them).
Denise - Apr 20, 2007 10:23:50 am PDT #5913 of 10001
Delusion of power, more like. Is there anyone outside of tv petition organizers who actually buys into the "illusion"?
The 7 people that signed it last night?
Burrell - Apr 20, 2007 10:41:50 am PDT #5914 of 10001
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I read somewhere or saw on the news that more DVR folks watch ads then expected and advertisers needed to worry more about ad placement (first or last have high watch rates). it was interesting & unexpected.
I've read the same. More watch tv in real time than is usually assumed too. But until most people have DVRs, we'll continue to hear the refrain that advertisers simply ignore the viewing habits of tivo users. Eventually, that will no longer be a viable marketing strategy.
le nubian - Apr 20, 2007 10:43:20 am PDT #5915 of 10001
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
Article about Tivo watchers and ads
It turns out that a lot of people with digital video recorders are not fast-forwarding and time-shifting as much as advertisers feared. According to new data released yesterday by the Nielsen Company, people who own digital video recorders, or DVRs, still watch, on average, two-thirds of the ads.
One big reason is that many people with DVRs still tune in to watch about half of their shows at the scheduled start time, meaning they must sit through commercials.
And even when people watch recorded shows later, many are not fast-forwarding through the ads. On average, Nielsen found, DVR owners watch 40 percent of commercials that they could skip over — perhaps because they like ads, don’t mind them or simply can’t be bothered.
Stephanie - Apr 20, 2007 10:45:40 am PDT #5916 of 10001
Trust my rage
I always watch the Mac ads when I see them. And I just bought a new Mac last week. And I have two Tivos, so I guess it's not all bad. My husband likes to watch all the commercials.
Jessica - Apr 20, 2007 10:47:01 am PDT #5917 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I'll sometimes let the Tivo play through the ads, but that doesn't mean I'm watching them, it just means I got up to get some water. Fortunately, Tivo can't tell the difference! Muahaha!
Kevin - Apr 20, 2007 10:50:13 am PDT #5918 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
By the way Denise, I'd still dispute the idea that people worrying about Drive a few days after air are crazy. I'd say in this case they're smart. History shows that networks will dump a show as fast they possibly can if it's well below their expectations -- Drive is, as I'm sure many here are aware not an exception to that rule. That said the only power those people have is to casually say to their friends 'Have you seen Drive? It's great!'. Or start a human rights petition.