(Tivo's viewer tracking is far more detailed and comprehensive, but advertisers subtract those numbers from the larger Nielsen ratings because Tivo-ers don't watch the ads.)
I knew I was part of the problem...
Book: Captain, you mind if I say grace? Mal: Only if you say it out loud.
'Serenity'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Ailleann - Apr 19, 2007 6:39:49 am PDT #5857 of 10001
vanguard of the socialist Hollywood liberal homosexualist agenda
Topic!Cindy - Apr 19, 2007 6:42:39 am PDT #5858 of 10001
What is even happening?
For a while last season, I'd play the VM episode on my TiVo, the night it aired, as I was going to bed. I'd shut off my TV from the TV set. That way, it looked like I watched it with the ads.
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 6:43:54 am PDT #5859 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
Cable networks should provide viewing figures back to Nielsen and the like, really. Cable boxes have return paths back to the network, so can supply data back.
Jackal - Apr 19, 2007 6:53:21 am PDT #5860 of 10001
It's not that I'm the only one, it's that I'm the honest one.
Sean K - Apr 19, 2007 6:58:04 am PDT #5861 of 10001
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
Re: the network worried about getting a bad rep for cancelling serialized dramas... from what I can gather, that's kinda not far from the truth.
I'm curious Jackal. What are you basing this statement on? Gather from where?
Jackal - Apr 19, 2007 6:59:51 am PDT #5862 of 10001
It's not that I'm the only one, it's that I'm the honest one.
I've been getting under people's feet at the Drive offices for the last two weeks.
Jessica - Apr 19, 2007 7:00:05 am PDT #5863 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Cable networks should provide viewing figures back to Nielsen and the like, really. Cable boxes have return paths back to the network, so can supply data back.
Fox isn't a cable network, it's broadcast. Totally different numbers.
Kevin - Apr 19, 2007 7:04:44 am PDT #5864 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I didn't mean Fox in particular, Jessica, although I'd assume Fox is shown on localised cable networks. Unless it's set up differently from the UK.
Vortex - Apr 19, 2007 7:04:47 am PDT #5865 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman
That effects net viewing figures to some extent.
It only affects net viewing figures if that person is a Nielsen family.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 19, 2007 7:10:37 am PDT #5866 of 10001
What is even happening?
Jessica, by "cable networks" I think he meant "cable companies" like Comcast, RCN, etc. [not cable networks (like Bravo, USA) versus broadcast networks (NBC, FOX, ABC, etc.)].
In other words, the cable companies could report on all of their customers, rather than Nielsen sampling households. Of course, the fact that most Americans wouldn't agree to that, because they don't want people spying on them in their homes, means the whole conversation is just more uneducated speculation.