You never know if a girl's gonna say 'yes', or if she's gonna laugh in your face and pull out your still-beating heart and crush it into the ground with her heel.

Xander ,'Help'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


Jesse - Apr 16, 2007 4:53:30 am PDT #5459 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Yeah, that was good times. I'm psyched. I'm kind of with Dana on being all set with car races, but I figure like the fights in Buffy, that's the part where I can pay less attention.


Theodosia - Apr 16, 2007 5:06:30 am PDT #5460 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

I like Los Bros Salazar a whole lot. Too many blondes for me to tell them apart, though.


Allyson - Apr 16, 2007 5:17:43 am PDT #5461 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I NEED THE NIELSEN DATA RIGHT NOW.


Matt the Bruins fan - Apr 16, 2007 5:21:37 am PDT #5462 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

As sympathetic as Alex is, I have to agree that I think I'll be rooting for Violet or K. Callan's characters to win.

The one thing that bothers me is Amy Acker playing the helpless victim and hostage. I hope she picks up some agency and works against her captors rather than just screaming "Help, save me!" from the train tracks she's tied to in every episode.

Or, y'know, she could turn blue and throw Paul Ben Victor's truck at him.


sj - Apr 16, 2007 5:24:39 am PDT #5463 of 10001
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

The one thing that bothers me is Amy Acker playing the helpless victim and hostage. I hope she picks up some agency and works against her captors rather than just screaming "Help, save me!" from the train tracks she's tied to in every episode.

I'm hoping that she is secretly one of the people behind the race.


lisah - Apr 16, 2007 5:27:05 am PDT #5464 of 10001
Punishingly Intricate

I'm hoping that she is secretly one of the people behind the race.

ooh I like!

I also wasn't crazy about the theme. But I loved the use of music through the rest of the show.


Jessica - Apr 16, 2007 5:29:06 am PDT #5465 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I'm hoping that she is secretly one of the people behind the race.

Oh, absolutely. I've kind of been assuming that all along. (I also don't think she was in the truck when NF was picked up.)


Theodosia - Apr 16, 2007 5:30:41 am PDT #5466 of 10001
'we all walk this earth feeling we are frauds. The trick is to be grateful and hope the caper doesn't end any time soon"

Maybe the truck driver has a twin brother....


Kevin - Apr 16, 2007 5:45:55 am PDT #5467 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.

The music and score in the episode is what I'm seeing nearly all the online searches for at the moment. People loved the music, apparently.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 16, 2007 5:46:41 am PDT #5468 of 10001
What is even happening?

I loved the "I missed orientation" line (because I so totally would), but I'm also harboring a secret dream that they told everyone that they just missed orientation, and they'll have to figure it out as they go.
Me, too.

I didn't notice the theme, but I did notice the use of music in general, and liked it. It reminds me a lot of how music was used (to good effect) in season one of Veronica Mars.

The soldier -- who is somehow AWOL without his own knowledge -- is he played by the same actor who played Kevin Girardi's friend on Joan of Arcadia (the guy who had the accident which crippled Kevin).

Is it just me or does JD Pardo (Sean Salazar) look like he could be a lost Menendez brother? I kept waiting for him to say, "Dad told me about Lyle and Eric, but I never heard of you."

And Oh! Charles Martin Smith plays Mr. Bright. Why was I thinking that was Clint Howard? The Ron Howard connection must have muddied my brain.

overall verdict: Watched it for the Tim-n-Kristen, staying for the LOVE!

I don't feel the love yet, but that's typical for me. I watched for the Tim, Kristen, and Nathan, but am staying for the like. I'm already invested in three characters (which is pretty good for such an enormous cast). I would have liked to see a little of Alex and Kathryn's homelife up front, so I'd have some emotion reaction to her kidnapping.