Anya Christina Emmanuella Jenkins. Twenty years old. Born on the fourth of July — and don't think there weren't jokes about that my whole life, mister, 'cause there were. 'Who's our little patriot?' they'd say, when I was younger and therefore smaller and shorter than I am now.

Anya ,'Potential'


The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax  

[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.


§ ita § - Feb 01, 2007 11:32:31 am PST #3871 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Until you said that Tim and Kristen made the promo (which I'm still not sure is what you actually meant?), there was no reason to think that.

Okay, let me try again.

1. The promo is representative of the series--if you don't like the one, you will probably not like the other (Allyson, paraphrased)

2. The writing team wrote the promos specifically, instead of providing raw material in episodes that was cut together to make them. [eta: Allyson says no, but my point still stands as long as the promos are representative]

I am not trying to squelch criticism of the writing team's work. What I am saying is that if you don't like the promo, blame them too. Whoever you blame, they did a representative job.

It's very common to separate the promos from the shows, and criticise the network promo monkeys that put them together. In this situation it seems the monkeys did their jobs right. So criticism of the promo is criticism of the show and the work of the show's creative team.

No scapegoats, no crazy network execs. The show's creative team.

That's the point I was beating to death.


bon bon - Feb 01, 2007 11:33:24 am PST #3872 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

OK, I want to take this to bureau.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 11:34:01 am PST #3873 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Will follow.

ETA: I'm sorry if I caused a problem with what is obviously my own personal issues.


Polter-Cow - Feb 01, 2007 11:46:05 am PST #3874 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

The current promo, I am not sure if the voiceover announcement guy was written in-house. I don't think so.

I doubt it was, given that it was the Voice of the Network: "Fox brings you a revolutionary new series," etc.

The rest of the promos were written in-house. They're monologues.

Okay, awesome. I look forward to those.

So criticism of the promo is criticism of the show and the work of the show's creative team.

All right, I think I get what you're saying.


Daisy Jane - Feb 01, 2007 11:51:47 am PST #3875 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

As if Tim + Great Show + Fox = early cancellation.

Ah, see, I've been taking that as a joke. Like Lucy and the football.


Laga - Feb 01, 2007 12:44:47 pm PST #3876 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

Lots of well written intelligent shows have long runs. Well a few... M*A*S*H at least.

eta: but M*A*S*H wasn't on Fox.


Laga - Feb 01, 2007 1:04:17 pm PST #3877 of 10001
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.

But Cereously. I have a positive outlook on the possible success of TV's Hit Drive. Most shows get cancelled. Some good shows do not. This feels like one of the ones that will go on. My toes are crossed.


msbelle - Feb 01, 2007 2:43:53 pm PST #3878 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

seriously. if people do not like anything, they can say so as long as they don't make personal attacks. if that stops being cool, it sucks.


Allyson - Feb 01, 2007 2:46:02 pm PST #3879 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

what about a kerfauxfle?


msbelle - Feb 01, 2007 2:48:40 pm PST #3880 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

bring it ON! I faux with the best of the imaginary people in the box.