Dexter's funny.
This. It's not weighty, either; people aren't as fucked up as on The Inside. Dexter's a misanthrope with an outlet. Plus the Miami location is incredibly sunny.
I gave her everything... jewels, beautiful dresses -- with beautiful girls in them.
Spike ,'Sleeper'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
bon bon - Jan 12, 2007 11:58:38 am PST #3195 of 10001
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
Matt the Bruins fan - Jan 12, 2007 11:58:55 am PST #3196 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Maybe because of Becky's background, and Web's ambiguity, and the fact that they were getting inside the criminals heads.
This is the key. On Law & Order: Dear God, Belzer's Going to Live Forever, Isn't He? or whatever, the victims are largely cyphers—as are the regulars below the surface—and the meat of the show is concerned with the hows of the crime-solving. The Inside had much more of a Thomas Harris crawl-into-the-killer's-brain tone to it.
Which I loved, but then again I was rooting for Angel to officially add the two letters from the Season 4 midyear promos and focus on the slow, gleefully lethal stalking of the supporting characters by the lead. I gather that's not representative of the mainstream audience.
Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2007 12:04:58 pm PST #3197 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
It's not weighty, either; people aren't as fucked up as on The Inside.
Yeah, while Dexter is complex, it's not like he's got layers and layers of complicated trauma pounding in his brain. And the people he kills aren't generally that fucked-up, either. They're just sort of bad people with fucked-up motives.
Plus the Miami location is incredibly sunny.
Yep. It's less visually dark.
Topic!Cindy - Jan 12, 2007 12:08:21 pm PST #3198 of 10001
What is even happening?
Which I loved, but then again I was rooting for Angel to officially add the two letters from the Season 4 midyear promos and focus on the slow, gleefully lethal stalking of the supporting characters by the lead. I gather that's not representative of the mainstream audience.I could have watched that. Would have watched that. Want to watch that.
Of course, I know it's easier for me to entertain more disturbing ideas in my brain, when they're all wrapped up in a shiny fantasy universe (i.e. Faith torturing Wesley, and that's the second time I've brought that up in as many days).
Kevin - Jan 12, 2007 12:15:12 pm PST #3199 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I remember Tim comparing The Inside to Se7en, and I really think that works in my mind. Se7en was disturbing, but great, which is how I think of The Inside.
To be clear, I don't mind darkness in TV. To my mind, Tim's episodes of Angel season 2's main arc are the best episodes of the entire run. I'm just not sure I want the entire show to be from that angle.
Astarte - Jan 12, 2007 12:22:24 pm PST #3200 of 10001
Not having has never been the thing I've regretted most in my life. Not trying is.
Mel Gibson should get a guest spot on Drive.
Only if Nathan gets to call him "Sugartits".
I'd pay cashy money for that.
Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2007 12:24:50 pm PST #3201 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Wait. "Newly-shorn" Nathan? Did he cut his hair off? noooooo!
I'll get back on topic... just give me a moment...
Kevin - Jan 12, 2007 12:29:21 pm PST #3202 of 10001
Never fall in love with somebody you actually love.
I would presume there will be publicity shots of Nathan and his hairy locks shortly.
Hey, I just went IMDBing for Drive, and there's a 2007 film project called "Drive" listed.
Polter-Cow - Jan 12, 2007 12:51:25 pm PST #3203 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Will it be written, directed, and produced by M. Night Shyamalan?
Zenkitty - Jan 12, 2007 12:53:48 pm PST #3204 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Talky meat:
All the things people have said they loved about The Inside, I did too. All the things people have just said they didn't like, I liked. Was there anything I didn't like about The Inside? ... thinking ... No.
I look forward to seeing Dexter. I want to see if it bothers me, and how. I tend to like things that give me shudders and creep me out (as opposed to squicking me). I'm intrigued by the idea of a (fictional) serial killer who isn't traumatized and severely fucked-up, just -- what, a well-adjusted sociopath?
I only meant my comments to apply to my own experience.
Oh, Cindy, I know. I just took them as a jumping-off place to explore my own thoughts.
I was asked to soberly believe in her and her damage and how it was being exploited the whole time she was onscreen.
ita, would you expound on this? I'm curious about how you may have seen it differently than I did. I believed in her damage and identified pretty strongly with her, and I didn't get the feeling that she was being exploited (except insofar as Webb was obviously exploiting her, and I didn't feel he was doing her further damage; just the opposite).
it's easier for me to entertain more disturbing ideas in my brain, when they're all wrapped up in a shiny fantasy universe
That's a good point, Cindy. Having a fantasy setting allows another layer of emotional distance, I guess. That works for me too; movies like Saw and Turistas are supposed to be set in the real world, and that's just, as Joss said somewhere, "torture porn". They probably appeal to the same people who watch those Faces of Death videos, which bother me deeply. I want to be able to look at the dark places without feeling like anyone's actually getting hurt. The Inside was just far enough removed from reality that I could fully engage with it and still stay in my comfort zone.
Se7en was disturbing, but great, which is how I think of The Inside.
The only thing that bothered me about Se7en was the final death. It didn't follow the pattern. It was just there for shock value.
This is why I like hanging out with Buffistas. There's no one else I can talk to about all these disturbing things I like!