Angel was the most Christian show on television?
What does that even mean?
See how I'm not punching him? I think I've grown.
Mal ,'Shindig'
The Minearverse 5: Closer to the Earth, Further from the Ax
[NAFDA] "There will be an occasional happy, so that it might be crushed under the boot of the writer." From Zorro to Angel (including Wonderfalls, The Inside and Drive), this is where Buffistas come to anoint themselves in the bloodbath.
Allyson - May 18, 2006 5:25:08 am PDT #148 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica
Frankenbuddha - May 18, 2006 5:28:46 am PDT #149 of 10001
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
What does that even mean?
It featured a recurring actor named "Christian"?
Jessica - May 18, 2006 5:29:49 am PDT #150 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?
What does that even mean?
That the writer of that article doesn't get Pax?
Got Life - May 18, 2006 5:31:21 am PDT #151 of 10001
Life is eternal, Love is immortal, and death is only an illusion.
They must have missed all the killing and sex...
Or it was TPTB refrence that confused them.
Kalshane - May 18, 2006 5:54:48 am PDT #152 of 10001
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Re: Teen Titans heights
Then Dick and Cyborg.
In one of the current TT trades I have, it lists both Starfire and Cyborg at 6'4", I believe. Of course, Kory's hair makes her seem taller.
Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2006 6:12:52 am PDT #153 of 10001
What is even happening?
Angel was the most Christian show on television?
What does that even mean?
Oh, this made me jones for some of Plei's posts on Angel's (Liam's and maybe even Angelus') Catholicism.
It's actually not a bad assertion in terms of his redemption and overall journey, but pretty useless without a supporting argument. Angel was the recipient of this incredible grace, and his whole journey was based on the struggle between his two natures (which is very old man/new man baptism/rebirth/conversion-theology heavy) and his zealous need to battle the evil he used to spread with gles and with which he is still tempted.
Strega - May 18, 2006 6:49:21 am PDT #154 of 10001
But I think that's what Goldberg means about the Christianity being entirely in subtext. The show employs ideas common to Christian theology, but they are not uniquely Christian. I could say Angel was the most Buddhist show on TV, because it's all about karma and how desire leads to suffering. The show dealt with good and evil a lot, and most religions have a lot to say about those subjects, so it's not hard to find any philosophy you feel like looking for.
I prefer to think that the letter-writer seriously misunderstood the Jasmine arc.
Topic!Cindy - May 18, 2006 7:42:13 am PDT #155 of 10001
What is even happening?
But I think that's what Goldberg means about the Christianity being entirely in subtext.I agree, Strega. I haven't followed the whole conversation--just the NRO page Allyson linked. I didn't think Goldberg was holding the letter writer up for ridicule, so much as saying, "Valid POV, as long as you're talking about subtext." That Goldberg saved the reader's letter for the end of the entry left me uncertain of his point in quoting the reader. Is there more, elsewhere?
Simon - May 18, 2006 8:21:38 am PDT #156 of 10001
Flowers in the Wasteland. I had to go via Google Cache to get it but it's a look at Angel from a Christian POV.
Strega - May 18, 2006 8:47:14 am PDT #157 of 10001
Oh, I hadn't looked into the background either. Having done so now, it just gets dumber the more you look. It came up because Goldberg was blah blahing about culture wars and said
Traditional religion is often treated as a farce, but ghosts and goblins are all about. I'm a huge fan of Joss Whedon's, but he has some pretty serious skepticism toward religion, but not to the supernatural.
Which, if I understand correctly, suggests that creating TV shows about demons and mosters means you believe they actually exist. So the letter was a response to that offhand comment, and manages the neat trick of disagreeing completely while being just as idiotic.