Oh, yeah, baby, it's snakalicious in here.

Xander ,'Empty Places'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Apr 07, 2006 11:21:37 am PDT #9533 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I just got out of a training that left me close to tears in absolute frustration that I couldn't express due to a dismissive jackhole.

New software system to automate travel. Adds more work to me and to scientists. Makes it easier on travel. Software does not actually work the way we actually work, and doesn't allow for unusual circumstances. Adds additional new paperwork for me in some cases, and much more follow-up time.

Now, software developers, please, please make me feel better.

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

Of course, it's an off-the-shelf package that can't be modified to fit us, because then they wouldn't be able to update it.

Software peeps. Please, tell me I'm not insane.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2006 11:23:57 am PDT #9534 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

Of course, it's an off-the-shelf package that can't be modified to fit us, because then they wouldn't be able to update it.

Sadly, we have the same issues with all of our proprietary software too. (Everything, and I mean EVERYTHING we use was written to serve one particular department's needs. The rest of us are expected to work around that.)


Vortex - Apr 07, 2006 11:24:30 am PDT #9535 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Vortex, may I tag you?

but of course!


tommyrot - Apr 07, 2006 11:24:33 am PDT #9536 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

Usually it's because management is all, "This is the new software we've decided to use andIdon'twannahearanycomplaitslalalalaIcan'thearyou...."


juliana - Apr 07, 2006 11:26:37 am PDT #9537 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

In theory, one would. In theory. We have software & websites built for us that don't work the way we work because management and IT often fail to ask the end users what they need. I'm sorry, Allyson. That always sucks.


Atropa - Apr 07, 2006 11:27:34 am PDT #9538 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

You ... don't want my answer. Trust me. It's not an answer I agree with, but it's one that I've learned through bitter experience.


Rick - Apr 07, 2006 11:28:59 am PDT #9539 of 10001

Wouldn't one buy/modify the software to bend to the way the user conducts business, and NOT make the user bend to software's fucked up idea of how other people do business?

This is the Peoplesoft curse that has been inflicted on almost every university in the last ten years. Universities are creative places where people do things in different ways. Peoplesoft is a tyrant that accepts no deviation from its revealed laws. All must tremble before it.


sarameg - Apr 07, 2006 11:29:43 am PDT #9540 of 10001

What Jilli said. It sucks. (which is why I haven't seen my paystub in... six months? A year?)


DawnK - Apr 07, 2006 11:32:23 am PDT #9541 of 10001
giraffe mode

bitter experience

Allyson, I work for a multi-national company and we have software that we have to use every day that neither works like we were told it would nor works for the end user. We actually have software that we had built for a specific use and cost us close to $2million, that we can't use and are getting ready to trash. So sorry though. I feel your pain, really I do. Now I just have zen about it, because I spent 17 months pissed off and complained to everyone I could think of (as did my boss) and it made no difference so now I'm all lalala about it but it took 17 months to get there.


Jesse - Apr 07, 2006 11:34:26 am PDT #9542 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

Now I'm all double-plus paranoid about my Stupid Thesis, since it's about picking software that would be used by people who won't like it no matter what. Argh. But I do have like 25 pages written, so that's something.