Cacophony.  That's pretty.  What's it mean?

Harmony ,'Underneath'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Liese S. - Apr 07, 2006 10:36:11 am PDT #9514 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Somehow I don't think Google Images is going to be helpful in determining that gender.


msbelle - Apr 07, 2006 10:38:33 am PDT #9515 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

The loophole I've heard mentioned in this case is that, since the President has the authority to declassify information, technically if Bush was behind the leak, the leaked info was no longer classified. It's a magical get-out-of-treason-free card.

The not small issue I have with this is that is you are going declassify someone's STATUS AS A CIA AGENT, maybe you TELL THEM FIRST!

jackholes, the lot of them.


Vortex - Apr 07, 2006 10:41:52 am PDT #9516 of 10001
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

The loophole I've heard mentioned in this case is that, since the President has the authority to declassify information, technically if Bush was behind the leak, the leaked info was no longer classified. It's a magical get-out-of-treason-free card.

I would argue that unless he declassified it before he leaked it, it was classified at the time of the leak, and therefore still a violation.


Calli - Apr 07, 2006 10:43:30 am PDT #9517 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

The not small issue I have with this is that is you are going declassify someone's STATUS AS A CIA AGENT, maybe you TELL THEM FIRST!

Yes, this. Because if you claim you have the right to declassify a CIA field agent without giving them a heads up first, you're basically saying you have the right to have them killed whenever you deem it useful.


Jessica - Apr 07, 2006 10:43:53 am PDT #9518 of 10001
If I want to become a cloud of bats, does each bat need a separate vaccination?

I would argue that unless he declassified it before he leaked it, it was classified at the time of the leak, and therefore still a violation.

I'd agree, and I haven't actually seen this excuse used yet. Just mentioned as a possibility.


Gudanov - Apr 07, 2006 10:46:39 am PDT #9519 of 10001
Coding and Sleeping

There isn't a specific allegation that Bush allowed the leak about Valerie Plame, but that Bush was orchestrating leaks to support the move toward the Iraq war. This could imply that Bush was involved in that leak, but right now that isn't an allegation.


brenda m - Apr 07, 2006 10:46:43 am PDT #9520 of 10001
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

I would argue that unless he declassified it before he leaked it, it was classified at the time of the leak, and therefore still a violation.

AFAIK, the Plame issue hasn't specifically come up in Libby's statement. I don't know whether the other info would be considered (legally) classified.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 07, 2006 10:48:26 am PDT #9521 of 10001
What is even happening?

Seriously. My knife defenses are reasonably good, but still. Real knives. They say no one gets injured, but they could perpetrating a huge coverup.

Are any of these people mothers? Ay yi yi.


shrift - Apr 07, 2006 10:49:23 am PDT #9522 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Right, so. I'm getting a little bit grumpy this afternoon. I'm having a hard time suppressing the violent impulses I feel toward certain coworkers.


Atropa - Apr 07, 2006 10:50:07 am PDT #9523 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

I want to ask this guy - Are you a Goth? Do you know Jilli?

Sweet zombie Jesus. The thing is, I bet I know people who know him. (Which would be one of the many reasons why I'm not going to the local SF/fantasy/general media geek convention that's happening next weekend. Too many people I really don't want to be trapped in conversations with.)

The not small issue I have with this is that is you are going declassify someone's STATUS AS A CIA AGENT, maybe you TELL THEM FIRST!

Yes, this.

I wish I could say I'm no longer surprised by any of the news about the government. I really do. But yes, surprised and horrified.