There's something about a food that moves all by itself that gives me the heebie-jeebies.

Joyce ,'Never Leave Me'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


P.M. Marc - Apr 07, 2006 7:22:41 am PDT #9454 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Why do materials cost more? Why do things cost more? Aren't we theoretically getting more efficient at making things, what with all the industrial age automation and cheap out of country labor and such?

Overconsumption?


P.M. Marc - Apr 07, 2006 7:23:48 am PDT #9455 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Plei! The politician man-love is gaining a following!! Stalin is no Henry Kissinger, but, it's a start.

Awesome!


Liese S. - Apr 07, 2006 7:23:58 am PDT #9456 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

Yeah, this is the bit that's upsetting. I just wonder how much of our disposable culture is vendor driven rather than genuinely demand driven. Like planned obsolescense software, but with far worse environmental consequences.


Jesse - Apr 07, 2006 7:24:01 am PDT #9457 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

And from a retailer POV, it's much better for them to sell me a crappy bookcase every year than to sell me a really good bookcase once.

Yeah, I think the producers realized that it was a business-model mistake to sell things that last forever and that the average person can afford.


Beverly - Apr 07, 2006 7:24:12 am PDT #9458 of 10001
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.

Well, we're getting more efficient at strip-harvesting old-growth, or even secondary-growth diverse forests and feeding the trees to chip mills that employ (a handful) of local people, then trucking the tons of chips to a port and loading them on a ship and sending them to Japan, where they employ thousands to make chipboard, and fashion Sauer and O'Sullivan "furniture" kits and load them on a boat and ship them back to the US, where they're sold to us in Walmart and KMart. And then the US Forestry Service reforests with fast-growing pine, which doesn't support the variety of dependent wildlife, either plant or animal, but it can be harvested pretty quickly to perpetuate the system in place.


§ ita § - Apr 07, 2006 7:24:42 am PDT #9459 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think the West Elm stuff looks way better than IKEA, but that's just from pictures. As noted, I still haven't been in.

My beds are futons (non-folding) with really great thick mattresses. In fact, the single bed's mattress is better than the one I sleep on every night. I like them much better than boxsprings.


Liese S. - Apr 07, 2006 7:27:34 am PDT #9460 of 10001
"Faded like the lilac, he thought."

We had those for a while. We really liked them, too, although we did break the frame in an incident that shall remain unspoken.

We used to have traditional Japanese futons, too, which are super thin, but still somehow very comfortable. Bonus feature, they rolled up and stored on a shelf during the day so we could repurpose our tiny bedroom.


Trudy Booth - Apr 07, 2006 7:31:17 am PDT #9461 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I wonder if its not really that the materials are more expensive but that the workmanship is -who the hell knows how to woodwork anymore except in the high-end? Now you either get a hand made wood masterpiece or something press board spit out by a machine whereas before, maybe, there were a range of well-made (if not elaborate on the low end) wooden things.


shrift - Apr 07, 2006 7:32:43 am PDT #9462 of 10001
"You can't put a price on the joy of not giving a shit." -Zenkitty

Well. I have a gigantor pile of work piled on my desk, and my boss took today off. Normally I'd be flipping out like a mammal, but instead, I'm wondering if I can get away with playing Solitaire on my iPod.


Jesse - Apr 07, 2006 7:35:46 am PDT #9463 of 10001
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

shrift, you can do whatever the fuck you want. What are they going to do, fire you? Muahahahaha!!