I've honestly never felt like victimisation like this is a gender problem. I tend to see it as a human problem, I guess. I don't view it as a men vs. women sort of thing.

Well, I don't recall hearing that the lacrosse team assaulted the guy who delivered their pizza. Because that would have been a crime, you know, wrong and shit.

Sad thing is, Ransone could legitimately face assault charges of his own. A co-kravver was charged with assault by his attacker a couple weeks ago. Shit ain't right.

I have to admit that the fact that he broke someone else's window to get at the guy so he could keep beating on him, after a chase, and after the danger to the woman was over, smacks of vigilantism to me. eta: That doesn't take away from the Yay him for stopping the attack, but it's a slippery slope.

There are plenty of locals who want him for a practice dummy first.

Well, the police have arrested several of them and obtained search warrants, so THEY think it's a crime.

Well, I don't recall hearing that the lacrosse team assaulted the guy who delivered their pizza. Because that would have been a crime, you know, wrong and shit.

But do you really think they assaulted the woman in question because they're men? Personally, I think they assaulted her because they're shitty examples of humanity, and what can go wrong with it.

I'm entirely willing to admit that my views on this may have been coloured by personal experience, incidentally.

Deleted, because pissed as I am at the Durham folks (not Durham Buffistas, just some moronic blog commentators) who've been saying exotic dancers have it coming, it was still damn obnoxious. Even for me.

awww Iggy! And he's a tiny little guy too.

Once I recognized him, all I could think was, "I've seen that guy naked." Stupid HBO not having decency standards.

I will say, every once in a while my male coworker will say something like, "Oh, I walk down that incredibly dark, skankeriffic alley at night all the time." And the whole room looks at him and replies: "That's because you're a boy, sweetie. We don't."

(The irony being that he's gay, but, all an attacker knows is that he's more than six foot tall and reasonably muscular. After him, I'm the most imposing person in the department. Which -- not.)

Oh, for sure. I don't mean to suggest that it's not being taken seriously by anyone other than the jackasses involved. (Someone turned in that email, after all.)

But I can't hand-wave the fact that out there among really a lot of men, hell, women too, there are those who conceive of women's rights, and even dignity, humanity, in a very different way than they do men's.

I said nothing about Barqs. As noted above, I prefer IBC. I don't drink a lot of Barqs because, as you've heard, it is caffeinated.

D'oh! Sorry, I got your post mixed up with Fred's. Mea culpa.

The saddest part about that scumbag Duke lacrosse player is that he's probably going to end up in the upper eschalons of the Department of Homeland Security.

But do you really think they assaulted the woman in question because they're men? Personally, I think they assaulted her because they're shitty examples of humanity, and what can go wrong with it.

I think this is a very good point.