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Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Allyson - Apr 05, 2006 11:18:51 am PDT #8866 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

I've honestly never felt like victimisation like this is a gender problem. I tend to see it as a human problem, I guess. I don't view it as a men vs. women sort of thing.

But it is. It's the notion that women aren't people.


Jars - Apr 05, 2006 11:18:52 am PDT #8867 of 10001

can be done to get stronger nails?

I've always been told eating jelly works, but I don't know if that's an old wives' tale or not. That would be jelly, the wibbly stuff, Jell-o as it's known on distant shores.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2006 11:20:37 am PDT #8868 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

It's the notion that women aren't people.

No one other than themselves are people to many of the people who like power. Women, children, foreigners, black people, Jews, Arabs, gays, Republicans, Democrats, whatever. There are so few people left.


sarameg - Apr 05, 2006 11:20:38 am PDT #8869 of 10001

Glue plastic to them? That's the only thing that's every accomplished that for me. Beyond a certain point, it's genetics.


Jessica - Apr 05, 2006 11:21:07 am PDT #8870 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Nail strengtheners? Though I honestly have no idea if they work.


Calli - Apr 05, 2006 11:21:30 am PDT #8871 of 10001
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

At my office we have a big "cut down on car use" thing every year. A man involved in the effort tried to sell me on the idea of biking to work. When I mentioned the whole traffic problem, he said that when he biked in--at 6 am in the middle of winter--there was next to no traffic. He didn't understand why a woman would see biking through a sketchy urban area in the dark would be the slightest bit unsafe. My telling him that I didn't want to end up raped, killed, and dumped in one of the many local construction sites just didn't register.

It's the willfullnes of the ignorance that gets me. He can ignore that safety is a problem, and look down on me for not biking through high crime areas in the dark. I don't have that luxury.


Jars - Apr 05, 2006 11:21:34 am PDT #8872 of 10001

But it is. It's the notion that women aren't people.

I don't see it as any more 'wrong' than homophobia or the treatment of children in some societies, by men and women of all ages. And I don't think it's as easy to view those situations in such a dichotomous way.


§ ita § - Apr 05, 2006 11:22:11 am PDT #8873 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

My nails are so soft! It's driving me crazy. I spend so much time filing them because they're always splitting and catching on something. And I'm fairly sure it's why I can't hold a manicure for 24 hours. I get enough calcium, dammit!


Scrappy - Apr 05, 2006 11:23:07 am PDT #8874 of 10001
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I'm with Jars. There are damaged people (men and women) out there who treat others (men and women) badly. And there is a specific segment of society that preys on women and gays and chidren. I want them all locked up. But, you know, that's all the news ever reports on--the fucked up individuals. When I think of the men I know and have known, they almost all treat the women in their lives with respect and affection. That daily behavior never gets reported and it gets overshadowed by the actions of the worst of humanity.


Allyson - Apr 05, 2006 11:26:28 am PDT #8875 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

When I think of the men I know and have known, they almost all treat the women in their lives with respect and affection.

I think I only know two men well, who aren't family.