We killed a homeless man on this bench. Me and Dru. Those were good times. You know, he begged for mercy, and you know, that only made her bite harder.

Spike ,'Sleeper'


Natter 43: I Love My Dead Gay Whale Crosspost.  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Hil R. - Mar 20, 2006 4:26:12 pm PST #5213 of 10001
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Going back a bit: I can't really think of very many un-stereotyped Jewish men in recent movies. As for Above Rubies, I saw it, and thought it was good, but not great. Also, there were a few "Huh?" moments for me, when someone on screen did something that an Orthodox Jew just wouldn't do (I can't remember any right now), but overall, I remember being more impressed at how many little details they got right than at the few they got wrong.

On Friends, they never quite say whether or not Rachel is Jewish. Monica and Ross definitely are (or, at least, their father is, and Ross celebrates Chanukah.)

I remember when State of Grace started on TV, I watched the first few episodes with my family, and it became something that we all watched just because it was pretty much the only thing on TV that any of us could remember that was about a Jewish family, not just neurotic singles. (Well, my parents could remember Mrs. Goldberg, but since that was about 50 years ago, it doesn't really count.) Though some of the adults, especially Hannah's mother, were a bit over-stereotyped, they still seemed more relatable than most other Jewish characters on TV.


Lee - Mar 20, 2006 4:58:42 pm PST #5214 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I came home to find this in my mail.

There's even a free toy inside!


sumi - Mar 20, 2006 5:08:57 pm PST #5215 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Do the Cohens on the OC count? I mean, Seth is nerdy but his dad is a recreational surfer with scary eyebrows.

Prisonbreak: I cried for at least the last 30 minutes of the episode even though I know that there is no way that they're killing Lincoln anytime soon. Also, I also figured that the governor called because it was his daughter's personal request.

24: Oh no, McHottie!!! Wow, the VEEP is evil -- and he's going to kill McHottie! And Audrey -- Audrey is evil too -- isn't that, excellent? Plus, German spy was cute.


Katie M - Mar 20, 2006 5:28:18 pm PST #5216 of 10001
I was charmed (albeit somewhat perplexed) by the fannish sensibility of many of the music choices -- it's like the director was trying to vid Canada. --loligo on the Olympic Opening Ceremonies

Yeah, if we're counting TV there's Grace Polk, though her father was working the stereotype.


sarameg - Mar 20, 2006 5:29:23 pm PST #5217 of 10001

I envy Allyson and her aerogel holding. My eye candy (and he was nice too! But unfortunately taken) in college got to work with the stuff and we were envious. But I still need zubbles.

That room set is pink, which is not me. But I tend to jewel tones. Crimson duvet cover and deep purple sheets, I am quite fond of. Now for a combo deep honey oak and wrought iron bed.

I'm not sure of ita's Rules of Order except that I've seen them violated. Some by me but not in her presence. Except the sleep and sighing and yawning, but that was all kosher and probably not in the cases she's ruling on. Cause otherwise, um, yeah, whatever.


Jessica - Mar 20, 2006 5:42:53 pm PST #5218 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

On 24, I suspect that Audrey has been framed. No proof, just a feeling.

But damnit, they can't kill Vice President McHottie! He's all the Palmer we've got left!


msbelle - Mar 20, 2006 6:02:52 pm PST #5219 of 10001
I remember the crazy days. 500 posts an hour. Nubmer! Natgbsb

Today sucked ass. I am going to bed. I am putting forth good thoughts for tomorrow.


Lee - Mar 20, 2006 6:06:04 pm PST #5220 of 10001
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Good night msbelle.

I will think good thoughts for tomorrow (both east coast and west coast versions) as well.


Trudy Booth - Mar 20, 2006 6:43:55 pm PST #5221 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

The cast of Grey's Anatomy is going to be on Nightline talking about race in Hollywood.


§ ita § - Mar 20, 2006 8:32:01 pm PST #5222 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

sarameg, if you're not in a meeting with me, you don't have to follow the rules.

But navels in IT meetings are surely beyond the pale.

msbelle, here's to an upgrade for tomorrow.