Or be woman enough to call it "Yes, I Really Am This Much of A Philistine and Bite(ha!) The Historical Hand that Feeds" Edward thinks everything sucks cause had to go through high school, like, twenty times without getting laid. Once was enough for me, personally, even being a girl who was not as beautiful as the sun and stuff.(I would have liked Edward so much more as a Kerouac or Burroughs fan. Everything about him was really quite girly, except for the patriarchy thing.)
Mal: Ready? Zoe: Always.
'Serenity'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
erikaj - Jun 30, 2009 8:51:19 am PDT #9466 of 28404
Always Anti-fascist!
Beverly - Jun 30, 2009 10:03:24 am PDT #9467 of 28404
Days shrink and grow cold, sunlight through leaves is my song. Winter is long.
(Which is to say - the passionate intensity of the relationship between the brothers Winchester, which I do not read as UST myself, mirrors the passionate intensity of the Heathcliff/Cathy relationship. Including the whole digging-uu-the-grave, come-back-and-haunt-me craziness. And, really, I don't know that you have to read Heathcliff/Cathy as lovers, unconsumated or otherwise, or their relationship as sexual - it's just THAT FUCKING INTENSE. And the reason that so many slashers have embraced the Wincest thing is very closely akin to the reason that the majority of the readers of Wuthering Heights read it as a heterosexual romance. But I think that the kick of that relationship ISN'T rooted in UST - it's the intense, obsessive, passionate relationship that those two form in childhood, just them against the world. Sexual desire is almost incidental - it's just the easy shorthand for pigeonholing the relationship.
::nodding so hard my head falls off--see it roll across the floor? loving Fay for speaking my mind. you know, since my head fell off and I'm apparently no longer capable of speech::
Toddson - Jul 01, 2009 3:35:48 am PDT #9468 of 28404
Friends don't let friends read "Atlas Shrugged"
he he ... I still remember in college having someone from the local school asking me to explain Wuthering Heights to her. On the 20-minute train ride into town. um ... NO.
Fay - Jul 01, 2009 3:40:28 am PDT #9469 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
And it's still a great book and I'm still mad at Stephenie Meyer for taking time on her website to write why it "sucks"
You are shitting me.
...
...
...wow. I kind of pretty much want to beat her to death with one of her own tomes, just for the sheer, irony-free HUBRIS.
Ah, Stephen King. How much I would like to give you a nice cool beer.
Barb - Jul 01, 2009 3:50:50 am PDT #9470 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”
You are shitting me.
Honey, you know we've got some good writers around here, but no, we couldn't even begin to make that shit up. She thinks it sucks. So no doubt, Twilight is her way of making it "right."
Frankenbuddha - Jul 01, 2009 3:53:49 am PDT #9471 of 28404
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Honey, you know we've got some good writers around here, but no, we couldn't even begin to make that shit up. She thinks it sucks. So no doubt, Twilight is her way of making it "right."
Much as it's her way of making vampires "right". Ugh. Glad I wasn't even remotely tempted.
Frankenbuddha - Jul 01, 2009 3:56:54 am PDT #9472 of 28404
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Ah, Stephen King. How much I would like to give you a nice cool beer.
He'd probably still appreciate the offer, but I don't think he does that anymore.
StuntHusband - Jul 01, 2009 5:06:50 am PDT #9473 of 28404
Electromagnetic candy! - Stark
Stephenie Meyer. How much damage hath she done to the vampire "genre"? Enough so that Matt Reeves (director of "Cloverfield") feels the need to defend his remake of "Let The Right One In" (wait wait - it needs a remake already? Oh, yeah - "Ringu") by saying "No, I won't Twilight it."
I feel a full-fledged pre-work crank coming on. Time to shut down the computer and start walking to work. La la la.
Fay - Jul 01, 2009 5:17:09 am PDT #9474 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
I...I realise it would be quite inappropriate, but the prospect of writing fic in which Stephanie Meyer gets eaten by an actual honest-to-god nonsparkly vampire of any denomination is almost overwhelming.
note to self: must finish that SPN/Twilight crossover, and get Edward's ginger ass lain to rest
Barb - Jul 01, 2009 5:18:26 am PDT #9475 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”
Stephenie Meyer. How much damage hath she done to the vampire "genre"?
You know, I'll be the first to say that I'm not a huge fan of the genre, on the whole, but dammit, I have respect for the history and the tropes. And, AND, if'n you're gonna fuck with the tropes and turn them upside down, then dammit, you'd better a) know your source material and the tropes and b) have a DAMNED good reason for turning that trope upside down beyond, "Oooh... I needed him to be immortal and beautiful but I didn't want to mess with the fangs and the drinking blood from people because it's, ew, you know, icky."
Bah.
::joins StuntHusband in the crank corner::
Time for me to get to work on the Manuscript That Will Not Die.