No studying? Damn! Next thing they'll tell me is I'll have to eat jelly doughnuts or sleep with a supermodel to get things done around here. I ask you, how much can one man give?

Xander ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Barb - Apr 09, 2009 3:43:07 am PDT #8798 of 28414
“Not dead yet!”

Speaking of Hamlet and the right age to play him, David Tennant's in talks to star in a movie adaptation.

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Jessica - Apr 09, 2009 3:47:36 am PDT #8799 of 28414
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I think a Hamlet where the title character is deliberately portrayed as being Way Too Old For This Shit would be fascinating and wonderful (and has probably been done), but that's not the movie KB made. He was playing the standard issue Young And Brash Hamlet, but doing it as a middle-aged actor in a stupid wig.


Kathy A - Apr 09, 2009 3:54:36 am PDT #8800 of 28414
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

Was it Number the Stars by Lois Lowry?

[or] Bernie Magruder and the Case of the Big Stink

Couldn't be either of those, since I read the book back in the late '70s, and those were both written long after that. It was more of a fluffy "kids stumble into a crime in progress and escape using their mad secret communication skillz!" plot than those titles.

Thanks for the suggestions, though!


Aims - Apr 09, 2009 5:15:35 am PDT #8801 of 28414
Shit's all sorts of different now.

Beats bitching about the nation's architecture and shagging Camilla Parker Bowles while you wait for your parent to shuffle off this mortal coil.

I would gasp at your outwardly, treacherous attitude toward the lovely Prince Charles, if I wasn't laughing so hard.

Sadly, that is all I can contribute to the Shakespeare conversation as my ignorance of The Bard is known throughout these parts.

Which is sad for one going to school to be a lit teacher.


Tom Scola - Apr 09, 2009 5:19:37 am PDT #8802 of 28414
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Interview with the guy who wrote Pride and Prejudice and Zombies:

And if you read through the original book it's startling and a bit eerie how many opportunities Jane Austen left in her original work for ultra-violent zombie mayhem.


Hayden - Apr 09, 2009 5:46:26 am PDT #8803 of 28414
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

ha!

So says you!

No, I kid. For me, coming from the extreme religious backwaters of the Deep South, reading the Bible was instrumental in being able to learn to call bullshit on the excesses of religious rhetoric. And to losing my religion, because I think it's fair to say that God as a character in a story is more capricious with his rages and affections than a million Odysseuses. But it's also a fascinating source document for our culture, arguably the most important touchstone for huge unexamined aspects of secular life. The more you know...


sumi - Apr 09, 2009 7:47:46 am PDT #8804 of 28414
Art Crawl!!!

Hey, there's a town where the streets have names from the Disc World.


P.M. Marc - Apr 09, 2009 7:53:09 am PDT #8805 of 28414
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

We read a book called The Bible as Literature that was fairly handy for nutshell education of those of us raised in unchurched homes.

The thing I learned most from Branagh's Hamlet is that "damn, Shakespeare really does go over all the major plot points (and his favorites bits of imagery) a half dozen times."

The thing I learned most from it was, DAMN, Branagh needs someone to stage a Steadicam intervention on him.


Jessica - Apr 09, 2009 7:55:28 am PDT #8806 of 28414
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

We read a book called The Bible as Literature that was fairly handy for nutshell education of those of us raised in unchurched homes.

I think we had the same one.


Ginger - Apr 09, 2009 8:35:57 am PDT #8807 of 28414
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The King James Bible is a magnificent piece of writing, and its phrasing was hugely influential on later works, particularly through the 19th century. It was written during Shakespeare's lifetime, and there is a (very) fringe belief that he was involved. The King James Bible and Shakespeare, combined with the rise of printing, essentially created modern English. You miss a lot of nuance without some familiarity with the King James, particularly in writers like Milton and Melville. I saw it happen in college and graduate English classes, when one or two people would ask, "But what does he mean by X?" and the rest of us would look at them like they were crazy, because it was Biblical phrasing that the rest of us had absorbed. I used to work with a woman who had pretty much been raised by wolves and who had no familiarity with the Bible, and she would change phrases like "In the beginning was the plan."

In terms of understanding Biblical references, I think one of the many "stories from the Bible" books, plus reading Genesis, Exodus, Revelation, the Psalms and the Gospels in the King James would pretty much cover it.