Jayne: You wanna go, little man? Wash: Only if it's someplace with candlelight.

'Objects In Space'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Jessica - Dec 19, 2008 8:58:48 am PST #8195 of 28431
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

And I adore Doomsday Book!

Passages just draaaaaaaaaaaaaaged for me. By the time I got to the last page I was still waiting for the book to start.


Vortex - Dec 19, 2008 4:55:35 pm PST #8196 of 28431
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

We're in the Houston airport. our flight's been delayed for two hours. Mysteriously, it's been delayed to the same time as the later flight. Hmmmmmm.


Shir - Dec 20, 2008 12:24:01 am PST #8197 of 28431
"And that's why God Almighty gave us fire insurance and the public defender".

::Waiting for Nilly to see the Willis talk::


Barb - Dec 20, 2008 7:18:43 am PST #8198 of 28431
“Not dead yet!”

Freakin' New Yorker's gone to town on YA literature. Their Book Bench Reads is full of some of the most asinine commentary I've seen in a long time with respect to young adult books.

I tend to think of young-adult fiction as sort of facile—a straightforward style, uncomplicated themes and morals—but this had a complexity, an ambiguity, that surprised me

It fit my expectations in terms of length and enjoyableness, though: I assume that anything branded “young adult” needs to have a plotline that captures a teen’s attention, and also needs to be not too long or challenging.

That was just within the first few paragraphs.

[link]

I tried to register to post, but the site hates me, so I had to rant in my blog. Bah.


sj - Dec 20, 2008 7:34:24 am PST #8199 of 28431
"There are few hours in life more agreeable than the hour dedicated to the ceremony known as afternoon tea."

What an aggravating article, Barb. Heaven forbid a book be challenging and complex. We couldn't let our kids read anything like that. t rolls eyes


Barb - Dec 20, 2008 7:55:31 am PST #8200 of 28431
“Not dead yet!”

It wasn't even the "we couldn't let our kids read anything like that" that made me nuts, sj, it was more the "we're shocked, SHOCKED, we tell you, that not only are these books good and complex and that kids would be interested. but also that they'd be able to ingest and appreciate such works."


Ginger - Dec 20, 2008 8:00:32 am PST #8201 of 28431
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

When I was a teen-ager, I assumed that the label was synonymous with preachy and boring, a companion to sex-ed classes. I still can’t imagine kids Lily’s age actually reaching for this book over “Tropic of Cancer.”

Apparently this person has read neither young adult fiction nor The Tropic of Cancer, which is, at best, a difficult book. These people appear to be from another planet, one without teenagers or books. Who the hell reads Tropic of Cancer, anyway?

It's certainly a contrast with this week's article [link] about whether the Newbery-winning books are too complicated and depressing for teens.

A good book is a good book for every age. Young adult is just a label, one that generally indicates that there are young people in the book and it has a plot. Are the moral stakes low in The Giver?

I have run out of words on the subject and am now just making rude noises and yelling.


Fay - Dec 20, 2008 8:12:04 am PST #8202 of 28431
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Good grief, Barb. What utter pillocks.

Did you all see this response? I did rather love it, I have to say.


Pix - Dec 20, 2008 9:42:33 am PST #8203 of 28431
The status is NOT quo.

Barb, to build on your point, it also makes me mad because implies that the YA crowd cannot enjoy any of the books they read and discuss in school. To Kill A Mockingbird and Of Mice and Men, for example, are two books commonly read in middle school that students tend to love, but clearly any book they read in their free time has to be insipid and simple. Grr. Believe it or not, stupid article-writer, some of us English teachers don't just force literature down students' throats like bad medecine. Some of us try to help our students gain the skills to read complex and meaningful books and enjoy them.


Pix - Dec 20, 2008 9:48:47 am PST #8204 of 28431
The status is NOT quo.

Coffee: Oh dear lord, Fay, that video is awesome.