I don't recall Dragon on a Pedestal being porny. Did I miss something?
Hey! What do you two think you're doing? Fightin' at a time like this. You'll use up all the air!
Jayne ,'Out Of Gas'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Laga - Oct 20, 2008 2:57:21 pm PDT #7808 of 28414
You should know I'm a big deal in the Resistance.
Jessica - Oct 20, 2008 2:57:32 pm PDT #7809 of 28414
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
Oh my. They are ALL perfect.
[I even love the Dune one in spite of thinking that, actually, the first 4 are all pretty damn good. And honestly, when I was fourteen, I even liked the last two because fourteen year-olds tend not to be too picky about books with that much sex in them. It was only upon rereading them as an adult that I said "Hey wait a minute, this soft-core porn is self indulgent crap!.")
Connie Neil - Oct 20, 2008 5:22:06 pm PDT #7810 of 28414
brillig
I still have the Eddings Sparhawk books, they do interesting things with religion and politics in those two series. And women get to kick some butt.
hippocampus - Oct 20, 2008 10:46:57 pm PDT #7811 of 28414
not your mom's socks.
love the adolescent reading habits link. And am building up to quite a long post about that top eleven most influential poems list. David, you are spot on about the academe vs beats split. But I'm more curious about how they defined 'influential'. Awful lot of good work out there to choose from.
My list of poets who most influenced me (probably only temporarily accurate) would include Bishop, Elliot, Pound, Moore, Rukeyser, Oppen, Berryman, Levis, Ferlingetti, (iPhone ate a couple here) Plath, Roethke, Ai, Szymborska, Achmatova, (sp), Koumanyaka, Transtromer, Heaney, and Charles Wright. Not all of those would make the popular cannon cut and several span the century, but there it is. What about you? What are yours?
Fay - Oct 20, 2008 11:00:21 pm PDT #7812 of 28414
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.
Me personally? Eliot, GM Hopkins, Blake, Kathleen Jamie, Tennyson, Tony Harrison, John Donne, Wilfred Owen. Shakespeare, obviously.
hippocampus - Oct 20, 2008 11:05:53 pm PDT #7813 of 28414
not your mom's socks.
oomg hopkins.
Love. With Carrion Comfort being the big love.
Didn't mean to sound like a blowhard, btw. Pedant, sure. But not bore.
Barb - Oct 21, 2008 2:54:27 am PDT #7814 of 28414
“Not dead yet!”
But I'm more curious about how they defined 'influential'.
Sox, I think he was just looking to get a cross-section of poems that are commonly included in anthology for study.
He looked through forty-seven major poetry anthologies published since 1980 and counted the poems that appear most frequently. Some people, of course, would quarrel with the notion that literary merit can be quantified. But Galenson simply wanted to poll a broad cross-section of literary scholars about which poems they felt were the most important in the American canon.
hippocampus - Oct 21, 2008 3:03:45 am PDT #7815 of 28414
not your mom's socks.
ah. frequency. Thanks Barb. I totally skipped to the list.
What?
Kat - Oct 21, 2008 4:14:04 am PDT #7816 of 28414
"I keep to a strict diet of ill-advised enthusiasm and heartfelt regret." Leigh Bardugo
American Poets? Errr.... much harder for me!
But from the list of poems I've taught so far this year: Elizabeth Bishop for sure! e.e. cummings. Would W. H. Auden count as American or British? Ginsberg, Walt Whitman, Mary Oliver, Billy Collins, Tony Hoagland, Ron Koertge, Gwendolyn Brooks.
I even taught a Bukowski poem and I generally loathe him. Yet I think the poem is awesome and gets kids reading and writing.
Paging Steph! Have you read the second Skulduggery Pleasant book? I just ordered it and wanted to know what you thought.
Frankenbuddha - Oct 21, 2008 4:37:59 am PDT #7817 of 28414
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Late to the party, but the adolescent reading list was really too, too funny. I'd love to see sci-fi and horror (as opposed to just fantasy - Dune aside) versions of those.