Mal: Well, you were right about this being a bad idea. Zoe: Thanks for sayin', sir.

'Serenity'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Strix - Oct 02, 2008 6:02:44 pm PDT #7661 of 28404
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Fay - Oct 02, 2008 9:28:18 pm PDT #7662 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

Paging Jilli! What were the YA vampire novels you recommended as antidotes for the Twilight series?

Not vampires, but werewolves, I loved "Blood and Chocolate" by Annette Curtis Klause (OK, she HAS a vampire book, "The Silver Kiss", but I didn't like it nearly as much).

Also not Jilli, but I'd second Blood and Chocolate as a rather lovely coming-of-age story. (By George, the film is pants, though. Way to totally miss the point, repeatedly, film-makers.)

Whilst I found Vampire Kisses cute like woah (because it is essentially a book about Teenage!Jilli, and thus slayed me), I do think that the Twilight crowd might be more inclined to like a bigger, chewier book. Tithe, Ironside and Valiant are great books by Holly Black - urban faeries rather than vampires, but with plenty of darkness, strangeness, magic and suchlike. (And girls who have SPINES! Yay!) Cassandra Clare's City of Bone (and, one assumes, the sequels) is a cracking read, and I also enjoyed the hell out of Melissa Marr's splendid Wicked Lovely. I'll be buying the sequel as soon as it's in paperback. I also enjoyed Blue Bloods and Masquerade, by ...er, Melissa De La Cruz, iirc? Anyway, they're basically Cruel Intentions, only with vampires. (And said vampires are fallen angels, to add a little interesting twist, who are constantly being reincarnated in a fairly original fashion, but tend not to get the memories of their past lives kicking in until adolescence.)


Atropa - Oct 02, 2008 9:51:31 pm PDT #7663 of 28404
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Whilst I found Vampire Kisses cute like woah (because it is essentially a book about Teenage!Jilli, and thus slayed me)

Hee! Yeah, kinda. I'll admit I'm very grateful that Ellen Schreiber is writing them, because if *I* had written something similar, the Mary Sue -ness would be a mite terrifying.

(Edited to add: which is why I sometimes want to shake Raven about her dislike of school. No, honey! School is good! Yes, your classmates are twits, but school! Yay school! Ahem, I may have character over-identification issues, what?)

I also enjoyed Blue Bloods and Masquerade, by ...er, Melissa De La Cruz, iirc?

Really? I read Blue Bloods, and was not taken with it.

I'm partway through re-reading Vamps by Nancy A. Collins, trying to figure out if I just had a cranky day when I read it, or if I really am that meh on it. I don't want to be meh on it, because she's written some really good non YA books in the past. But ... like I said upthread, non-stop high-end fashion brand names, and the plot is kind of predictable.


Strix - Oct 02, 2008 10:55:20 pm PDT #7664 of 28404
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

REALLY? Nancy Collins?! Color me surpised. That seems a weird...turnaround. I mean, usually an author goes from the frothier stuff to the edgier stuff later.

We're talking "Sunglasses After Dark" Collins, right?


Strix - Oct 02, 2008 11:05:02 pm PDT #7665 of 28404
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

Kate P. - Oct 03, 2008 6:06:14 am PDT #7666 of 28404
That's the pain / That cuts a straight line down through the heart / We call it love

Fay mentioned a whole bunch of the books I was going to recommend for your teens, Kristin, but I'll add just a couple more: The House of Night series by P.C. & Kristin Cast (starting with Marked ) has been very popular at my library among the Twilight crowd, as have Richelle Mead's Vampire Academy and Frostbite (first two books in a series, IIRC). I haven't read anything from either series yet, but they both look darker & edgier than the Twilight books. Both series are published as YA.


Kathy A - Oct 03, 2008 6:36:52 am PDT #7667 of 28404
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

My sister's stepdaughter really liked Blue Blood. She's currently reading the Twilight series and agrees with my niece that, while it's not well-written, it is unputdownable.

When I go out there to visit next month, I'm going to bring out some Marjorie Liu vampire romances for her to read. I've gotten some good recs on her books from customers at the bookstore.


Ouise - Oct 03, 2008 6:46:31 am PDT #7668 of 28404
Socks are a running theme throughout the series. They are used as symbols of freedom, redemption and love.

Kelley Armstrong has started a YA series in the same universe as her Women of the Otherworld series. The first book, The Summoning is out, and I really liked it. There weren't any vampires (the main character sees ghosts), but they do exist in the universe (although judging by Armstrong's other books, we'll probably see a lot more werewolves than vampires in future books).


Miracleman - Oct 03, 2008 7:09:10 am PDT #7669 of 28404
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020

I had bought World War Z for my students last year. It's worth a look, then?

I'd say so. The conceit is neat (and adds to the creepy).

And it's by the same guy who wrote "The Zombie Survival Handbook". So you know he knows what he's talking about. I guess.


Jessica - Oct 03, 2008 7:14:34 am PDT #7670 of 28404
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

Well he hasn't been murdered by zombies yet, so there you are.