Everybody dies, Tracey. Someone's carrying a bullet for you right now, doesn't even know it. The trick is to die of old age before it finds you.

Mal ,'The Message'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Barb - Sep 23, 2008 5:41:02 am PDT #7424 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”

Or "Forest Gump" winning the Oscar over "Pulp Fiction."

Have you ever read the book? Forrest is a real asshole.


Steph L. - Sep 23, 2008 5:41:12 am PDT #7425 of 28404
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

This same friend also got shit for her series from paranormal romance fans because she had the utter crust and temerity to make the vampires, for the most part, eeeeeeeeeeee-vil.

Is this Alyssa Day? If so, I was impressed with how ULTRA-evil she made the vamps without actually going over the top.


Barb - Sep 23, 2008 5:47:54 am PDT #7426 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”

Yeah-- she really goes some dark places with her books and it's not going to be getting any better with the next one. I love that about her.


Barb - Sep 23, 2008 5:49:23 am PDT #7427 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”

Let it go, doll. For every person who needs their books lightly toasted and served with a side of saccharine jelly, there's three who put the toaster on burnt, and served it with some clotted character-death cream with antihero jam.

By the way, I love this line and may have to marry it.


Fay - Sep 23, 2008 5:51:11 am PDT #7428 of 28404
"Fuck Western ideologically-motivated gender identification!" Sulu gasped, and came.

she needs to know that the main/key characters are safe--that nothing too bad will happen to them during the book and she wants my friend to write her and let her know if she's going to continue down this path.

Wow.

And here I've been pondering putting pen to paper (since I'm not seeing any obvious email addresses) to write to Diana Wynne Jones and tell her how utterly her kids' books rock, even rereading them 25 years later. Just finished rereading Witch Week, and feeling like going on a mad binge. I'd like to reread Spellcoats and Power of Three in particular, and The Homeward Bounders, and I understand that Fire and Hemlock is jam-packed with The Four Quartets references! Which I totally missed at the time...but which may explain why I instantly loved that particular poem(s), and why it felt like coming home upon first reading.

The reader whose letter you describe, however, is clearly a freaking Martian. Ack. I sort of want to bludgeon her to death (or at least pain) with a couple of Iain (M) Banks books.

...I'm trying to be reasonable, and accept that some (many?) people want their fiction to be pure comfortfood - some kind of narrative equivalent of Twinkies. And there is no reason why they should HAVE to enjoy green Thai curry, or creme brulle, or bitter chocolate, or a shot of cinnamon-flavoured stolli. They want Twinkies, and heaven forbid that they should find a burrito or a chocolate-coated banana hiding inside the Twinkie wrapper.

...er, perhaps it would be wise to abandon my metaphor at this point, since it has been pretty much beaten to death. Ahem. Still - I'm TRYING to allow them to want saccharine rubbish that never inspires any emotion more complex than a warm little glow of satisfaction.

But mostly, I'm still wanting to bludgeon them with a copy of Othello or something.


Typo Boy - Sep 23, 2008 5:56:50 am PDT #7429 of 28404
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.

This is an excuse to bring out my Carmen story again. Opera critic at a new Carmen premiere, meets a young couple at intermission. They tell her they are new to opera and just in love the music and scenery and everything.

Critic runs into them again after the show ends and asks how the like it now tha they've seen the whole show. The couple turn to her, eyes wide with horror and choke out: "he killed her!".


Steph L. - Sep 23, 2008 5:56:59 am PDT #7430 of 28404
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

Yeah-- she really goes some dark places with her books and it's not going to be getting any better with the next one. I love that about her.

I'm dying for a book about Alaric, and Riley's sister (can't remember her name).


Connie Neil - Sep 23, 2008 6:08:33 am PDT #7431 of 28404
brillig

There is a midpoint between preferring pablum or pain and angst. Some of us don't revel in suffering and unrelenting hopelessness. I can cope with "real" just fine, thanks. But if there's not an inkling that there's not going to be some sort of victory at the end--it may just be moral--then I won't be going on that trip.


Frankenbuddha - Sep 23, 2008 6:09:38 am PDT #7432 of 28404
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

This same friend also got shit for her series from paranormal romance fans because she had the utter crust and temerity to make the vampires, for the most part, eeeeeeeeeeee-vil.

Excuse, has anyone seen my eyes? They seemed to have rolled out of my head.


Barb - Sep 23, 2008 6:32:02 am PDT #7433 of 28404
“Not dead yet!”

Critic runs into them again after the show ends and asks how the like it now tha they've seen the whole show. The couple turn to her, eyes wide with horror and choke out: "he killed her!".

Typo, I think this is more or less what happened to me with the book that just got canceled (it was loosely based on Carmen). My primary editor knew the story and loved it, but I don't think the other people in the publishing house did-- so there were aspects of my lead character that in the words of the publisher, made her "unlikable." (She's very independent to the point of being a loner and is somewhat acerbic.) But as I said to my agent, "Um,, hello, Carmen? At least my lead (Soledad) isn't an amoral slut who steals and breaks men's hearts for sport."

But if there's not an inkling that there's not going to be some sort of victory at the end--it may just be moral--then I won't be going on that trip.

That's the thing, though, Connie-- Alyssa doesn't go down the dark and twisty road just for the sake of it and because it's romance, the main characters do get their happy at the end. She's not deviated from this in two books and two novellas-- the emotional payoff is there. So I'm willing to go along for the ride with her. I was just so struck by the fact that this reader said she loved so much about the series, yet was unwilling to trust that Alyssa would ultimately give the characters the HEA. I mean, for me, as a reader, the payoff is generally so much better the higher the stakes and odds overcome.