Not saints, but Abelard and Heloise. Of course, Heloise didn't want to be celibate, but Abelard forced it.
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ChiKat - Mar 01, 2006 8:42:53 am PST #59 of 28061
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Dana - Mar 01, 2006 1:32:10 pm PST #60 of 28061
"I'm useless alone." // "We're all useless alone. It's a good thing you're not alone."
Margery Kempe made her husband be celibate for a while too.
Consuela - Mar 01, 2006 3:15:12 pm PST #61 of 28061
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Um, didn't Heloise' uncle cut off Abelard's penis to enforce the celibacy?
Hmm, according to Wikipedia, well after the celibacy was broken.
Strix - Mar 01, 2006 4:43:53 pm PST #62 of 28061
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Gonads, not the tool o' love itself.
DavidS - Mar 02, 2006 8:58:58 am PST #63 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Gonads, not the tool o' love itself.
That's right! Castration is generally not accompanied by dick amputation.
Though in certain Malaysian countries it is not uncommon for women to cut off the johnsons of their cheating husbands and throw it to the pigs.
ChiKat - Mar 02, 2006 8:59:28 am PST #64 of 28061
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
IIRC, Abelard and Heloise started of having an affair. She was his student. Her uncle (and guardian) found out and sent her away to a convent. They continued the affair. She got knocked up, had the baby, then they married secretly.
After they married, the uncle castrated Abelard as a revenge sort of thing because he thought they weren't married or possibly that Abelard left Heloise (which he didn't).
The celibacy was forced at that point, but even beyond the physical intimacy, Abelard had some sort of change of heart due to the castration and thought he should be pure of mind and spirit which meant cutting Heloise completely out of his life. (This was a time when scholars and priests thought that just being near women would taint them and keep them from achieving intellectual and spiritual enlightenment.)
She tried to have a relationship with him and craved emotional intimacy, but he refused her.
DavidS - Mar 02, 2006 9:05:06 am PST #65 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
She tried to have a relationship with him and craved emotional intimacy, but he refused her.
Some of her letters to him at this point are pretty interesting in a "fuck you, you goddamn quitter wimp!" way.
ChiKat - Mar 02, 2006 9:27:25 am PST #66 of 28061
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
Some of her letters to him at this point are pretty interesting in a "fuck you, you goddamn quitter wimp!" way.
Yes they are! I read their letters about a year ago and it was pretty fascinating.
flea - Mar 02, 2006 9:28:06 am PST #67 of 28061
information libertarian
certain Malaysian countries
Such as, um, Malaysia?
(runs away)
DavidS - Mar 02, 2006 10:05:30 am PST #68 of 28061
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Such as, um, Malaysia?
Come back here you didactic corrector!
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