Simon: I, uh... I never-never shot anyone before. Book: I was there, son. I'm fair sure you haven't shot anyone yet.

'War Stories'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


Dana - May 06, 2008 5:22:51 am PDT #5666 of 28348
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

Also, she makes too much money.


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 5:23:38 am PDT #5667 of 28348
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Bitch.


Dana - May 06, 2008 5:24:34 am PDT #5668 of 28348
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

And speaking of the whole thing, fandom wank has a new update, including links to articles in the New Yorker and the Chicago Tribune.


Nutty - May 06, 2008 5:28:43 am PDT #5669 of 28348
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

I was reading Fandom Wank last night, and I think except for one comment (about how the respondent was so shocked she dropped her monocle into her martini) everybody there doesn't quite realize that the New Yorker is doing the anime squint at the whole thing: o.O

Not that the New Yorker would cop to calling it an anime squint, but the article dripped with condescenscion-border-on-contempt, and many of the respondents seemed worried that the writer was taking Steve Vander Ark's side. I was like, Oh honeys, I am absolutely sure that the New Yorker thinks that both he and you are exotic zoo animals. So don't worry.


Dana - May 06, 2008 5:32:37 am PDT #5670 of 28348
I'm terrifically busy with my ennui.

The New Yorker article was written by Tim Wu, who's written another article about the whole thing in Slate (both made of fail, IMO) and is apparently one of the Stanford Fair Use people.


Jessica - May 06, 2008 5:56:04 am PDT #5671 of 28348
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

They weren't really prequels as the continuing stories of the other Battle School kids.

You're right, I just couldn't think of a better word. Parallelquels?

and Bean just rocks

Ah, and that's where you and I differ. Bean was fine as a secondary character in Ender's Game, but as a protagonist I found him to be a giant bore. I wanted more Peter and Valentine.

Ender's Game: Harry Potter as Harry Potter: Lexicon

Er...buh?


§ ita § - May 06, 2008 6:47:22 am PDT #5672 of 28348
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Look away now if you want to keep not reading OSC's non-fiction.

So as not to reinterpret or lose tone...it is possible I'm missing the point...

Rowling "feels like her words were stolen," said lawyer Dan Shallman.

Well, heck, I feel like the plot of my novel Ender's Game was stolen by J.K. Rowling.

A young kid growing up in an oppressive family situation suddenly learns that he is one of a special class of children with special abilities, who are to be educated in a remote training facility where student life is dominated by an intense game played by teams flying in midair, at which this kid turns out to be exceptionally talented and a natural leader. He trains other kids in unauthorized extra sessions, which enrages his enemies, who attack him with the intention of killing him; but he is protected by his loyal, brilliant friends and gains strength from the love of some of his family members. He is given special guidance by an older man of legendary accomplishments who previously kept the enemy at bay. He goes on to become the crucial figure in a struggle against an unseen enemy who threatens the whole world.

This paragraph lists only the most prominent similarities between Ender's Game and the Harry Potter series.

An intense game played by teams flying in midair. Well, will you look at that.


Hil R. - May 06, 2008 6:49:40 am PDT #5673 of 28348
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Other than the "intense game played in midair" part, isn't that the plot of like half the kids fantasy novels in existence?


DavidS - May 06, 2008 6:59:54 am PDT #5674 of 28348
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Other than the "intense game played in midair" part, isn't that the plot of like half the kids fantasy novels in existence?

I was gonna say. JKR stole lots of notions, but OSC is not even in the top ten of her influences.

But those are a lot of standard tropes.


Hayden - May 06, 2008 7:01:55 am PDT #5675 of 28348
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I really disliked Ender's Game, which seemed to me to be an elaborate Rube Goldberg-device designed to justify genocide. It didn't seem to me to be very well-written, and I didn't buy his ideas about innocence enough to even be entertained by the idea of an innocent committing acts of atrocity.

But I've heard some people who've read more OSC than I say that they see a lot of sublimated homosexual subtext in his writing. I don't really have an argument here, not being in the know, but just wanted to put that forward.