No, Susan said that the one she voted for was historical, with the 2 basically naked people. Because y'know, people throughout history have been naked....

I could've lived with the naked. But no one was naked with those hairstyles 200 years ago!

I kept nit-picking the flying scenes, and I lost interest in continuing.

Really? There was one scene in one of them that I thought was just fabulous, where Liam is the spotter while his ex flies the plane looking for a school of fish, and there's dozens of boats down below and a whole bunch of other planes above that they're trying not to hit. It was just exciting as hell, and very well-described in a way so you could really imagine it. I like that kind of writing.

It was a fabulous scene, and what she described is similar in many ways to what it's like to be in a gaggle of sailplanes sharing a thermal. There were too many "Yes...but no...." moments.

I'm overly critical of descriptions of flying. I recognize it, but I can't stop doing it. It's stuff I'd like to think I know, even though I know my information is almost 15 years out of date.

But on just about anything but feminism she was reactionary even for her time.

Surely you're not faulting her for not being perfectly untimely and reactionary?

One way or another it's hard to tell how many people would translate into our oh-so-enlightened times. Some people would still sit squat upon their prejudices and hold them tight to their breasts, and others would let them fall away since they'd not been held with rigourous examination.

Surely you're not faulting her for not being perfectly untimely and reactionary.

I don't know about faulting her. She was reactionary on many issues, by the standards of her time. Not just by today's standards but by her own times standards. If she was a reactionary in the 20s by the standards of the 20s, then a best guess is that she would be a reactionary today by the standards of today.

Feminism was an exception. She was a feminist in her own time by her own times standards, albeit at the conservative end of the feminist spectrum of her time - thus I'm guessing today that she'd be a feminist by the standards of today, albeit a conservative feminist by today's standards. You can never know something like this for sure - but it seems plausible to translate where she was compared to others in her time to where she'd be today compared to others today.

(Sneaking in just to tell Typo Boy how much I love the tagline)

/alas, back to work

Donna Leon's Commissario Guido Brunetti mysteries are lovely little reads for down time that take place in Venice and have good food porn, Kristin.

Margery Allingham's Campion series is lots of fun, too. She's always struck me as a very modern-type detective writer.

it seems plausible to translate where she was compared to others in her time to where she'd be today compared to others today.

So she'd be just as anti-Semitic as is acceptable today, and reactionary still in the feminism front? Which would make her a bad Buffista how?

Is it common knowledge that Larry Niven is nuts?