as much as how it was told.
nods Got it. It's like, Dude, the holocaust manipulates enough feelings without being that manipulative.
I'm just, uh, just feeling kinda... truthsome right now. And, uh... life's just too damn short for ifs and maybes.
Mal ,'Heart Of Gold'
Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.
There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."
Aims - Mar 19, 2008 6:08:09 am PDT #5339 of 28370
Shit's all sorts of different now.
amych - Mar 19, 2008 6:11:03 am PDT #5340 of 28370
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?
Exactly.
Sue - Mar 19, 2008 6:12:34 am PDT #5341 of 28370
hip deep in pie
It's like, Dude, the holocaust manipulates enough feelings without being that manipulative.
Totally. Of course, the guy I was with was bawling his eyes out. He's said he was totally aware he was being manipulated, but it was still sucking him in.
Amy - Mar 19, 2008 6:14:53 am PDT #5342 of 28370
Because books.
Of course, the guy I was with was bawling his eyes out. He's said he was totally aware he was being manipulated, but it was still sucking him in.
Well, that was me. You can spot the manipulation a mile off, but it didn't minimize the effect of what I was seeing, for me. And imagining the real people, the camps, the brutality.
Kathy A - Mar 19, 2008 6:19:33 am PDT #5343 of 28370
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
He's said he was totally aware he was being manipulated, but it was still sucking him in.
This was me. Watching Saving Private Ryan, otoh, I didn't buy into the manipulation and just felt like I was being jerked around. (Band of Brothers got me, though.)
Looking back on my elementary/middle/high school education on the Holocaust, I'd have to say we had practically none. While in 7th grade, though, I had seen a TV movie on the capture of Eichmann and started reading up on the subject on my own. Back in the late '70s, there were very few books for children on the Holocaust (other than Anne Frank), so I just read adult books, complete with graphic photographs and descriptions.
Amy - Mar 19, 2008 6:22:33 am PDT #5344 of 28370
Because books.
Yeah, Saving Private Ryan just annoyed me. Band of Brothers didn't, although I haven't seen the whole thing.
I'm with Kathy on the education -- as far as I can remember, the only discussion of the Holocaust in school for me revolved around The Diary of Anne Frank.
Miracleman - Mar 19, 2008 6:23:57 am PDT #5345 of 28370
No, I don't think I will - me, quoting Captain Steve Rogers, to all of 2020
I liked Saving Private Ryan up until the very end. "Am I a good man?"
"Oh, shut up and get in the car."
Aims - Mar 19, 2008 6:30:09 am PDT #5346 of 28370
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Of course, the guy I was with was bawling his eyes out. He's said he was totally aware he was being manipulated, but it was still sucking him in.
Well, that was me.
Me, three.
Hil R. - Mar 19, 2008 6:38:01 am PDT #5347 of 28370
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l
I can't remember much discussion of the Holocaust in regular school until high school. It was discussed a lot in Hebrew school, though. (Particularly during fifth grade, when we had a teacher who really didn't know how to teach, and I'm pretty sure he didn't know much more Hebrew than we did, and he spent a lot of time telling up about what happened to him during the Holocaust.)
Sue - Mar 19, 2008 6:55:27 am PDT #5348 of 28370
hip deep in pie
I remember a teacher reading The Diary of Anne Frank to us in grade five, but I was aware of it way before then.