Gunn: The final score can't be rigged. I don't care how many players you grease, that last shot always comes up a question mark. But here's the thing. You never know when you're taking it. It could be when you're duking it out with the Legion of Doom, or just crossing the street deciding where to have brunch. So you just treat it like it was up to you—the world in balance—'cause you never know when it is.

'Underneath'


Literary Buffistas 3: Don't Parse the Blurb, Dear.

There's more to life than watching Buffy the Vampire Slayer! No. Really, there is! Honestly! Here's a place for Buffistas to come and discuss what it is they're reading, their favorite authors and poets. "Geez. Crack a book sometime."


sumi - Mar 13, 2008 11:42:54 am PDT #5223 of 28344
Art Crawl!!!

Well, the costumes and hair in the 1940s movies are ALL WRONG.


brenda m - Mar 13, 2008 11:50:05 am PDT #5224 of 28344
If you're going through hell/keep on going/don't slow down/keep your fear from showing/you might be gone/'fore the devil even knows you're there

Laurence Olivier played Mr. Darcy in a 1940 version of Pride and Prejudice. Which won an Oscar for Art Direction. So even though I haven't seen it, I can't dismiss it out of hand.

Except for the skeevy grossness of Olivier. So I guess I can.

I would say that a formula for making a bad movie from a book is to slavishly copy the book. The best movies are those that a reimagined for the screen.

I read an interview with Tom Stoppard who was saying that he agreed to direct Rosencrantz after resisting the idea for years because the stage adaptations convinced him that people were too afraid to fuck with the source material. He was the only one he knew had the proper lack of respect for the playwright's delicate genius.


Jessica - Mar 13, 2008 12:49:46 pm PDT #5225 of 28344
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

The Olivier P&P is weird. I think it would work best as a movie for people who hadn't read the book, because I spent too much of the movie confused by the changes to properly appreciate it.


JZ - Mar 13, 2008 12:55:17 pm PDT #5226 of 28344
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.

The insane costuming and the bizarre impostor running around claiming to be Lady Catherine de Bourgh but so clearly not her at all made it completely impossible for me to enjoy it properly. I did kind of like the way Greer Garson and Olivier played off each other, and I kept wishing I could see them in something that more closely resembled the actual P&P.


Scrappy - Mar 13, 2008 1:01:19 pm PDT #5227 of 28344
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I actually love the '40 P&P. It has a script by Aldous Huxley! Edmund Gwenn as Mr.Bennett! However, it is more an odd little riff on P&P than anyhjting like the actual novel, which is also how I think about the Knightly (Emo!Darcy) version. Although I enjoy both the Garson and Knightly riffs, the Firth/Ehle is the ONE TRUE P&P.


Glamcookie - Mar 13, 2008 2:11:56 pm PDT #5228 of 28344
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

More booktalking help requested here. I read Prince of Tides a long time ago and will be book talking it tonight. I remember it being really well-written (some of it even poetic), about a messed up Southern family (sexual and physical abuse). Anything else I can add to the mix? These kids love messed up family stories (probably because many of them can relate, sadly), so that is the angle I'm looking for.


megan walker - Mar 13, 2008 2:31:11 pm PDT #5229 of 28344
"What kind of magical sunshine and lollipop world do you live in? Because you need to be medicated."-SFist

Maybe ask what they think about Savannah (the suicidal sister) writing about what happened to the family, both in her poetry, and her children's story?


Amy - Mar 13, 2008 2:53:31 pm PDT #5230 of 28344
Because books.

It's been way too long since I read that book to help, sadly. I just remember Angst.


beth b - Mar 13, 2008 7:22:28 pm PDT #5231 of 28344
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

That's one of those books that different people remember differently. I am enthralled with the physical descriptions of South Carolina . ( My grandparents lived there - my parent are there now). My DH finds the relationship tom( ?) has with his psychiatrist compelling. My father really liked it, but at the same time found it overly dramatic.

I might read the very early line where it describes the smell of SC.1) very true 2) poetic 3) crude , pulls no punches. ( if I could find the book, I'd quote it- look for the word semen)


DavidS - Mar 13, 2008 9:18:56 pm PDT #5232 of 28344
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Well, one of the boys got raped after prisoners escaped from prison. And his older brother shot the escaped convict. And there's lots of therapy. And he has a fling with his therapist. And you'd never want to be a sibling or parent or other family member of Pat Conroy because in one novel he'll laud you as the most awesome person ever but in the next novel he'll portray as evil incarnate.

Conroy's actual sister is a well known poet.